Voldemort vs. Grindelwald

Originally posted by juggerman
I think Dumbledore trusted in the prophecy and knew Harry would end Voldemort. I don't think Albus felt he should even try to when the end was preordained

This doesn't make any sense. Dumbledore himself says prophecies aren't always reliable. He didn't just sit back and "trust in the prophecy". If he would have done that he never would have destroyed any of the horcruxes himself.

We also more or less see him getting increasingly frustrated with the situation involving Voldemort after Voldemort returns.

Dumbledore wouldn't have just sat back and let this happen if he had the power to stop Voldemort.

Juggerman doesn't make a shred of sense. Anyone with a functioning brain knows Albus was terrified of Voldemort and his reign of terror until his demise. He planned meticulously in his later years to try to help bring Voldemort down.

Originally posted by Surtur
This doesn't make any sense. Dumbledore himself says prophecies aren't always reliable. He didn't just sit back and "trust in the prophecy". If he would have done that he never would have destroyed any of the horcruxes himself.

We also more or less see him getting increasingly frustrated with the situation involving Voldemort after Voldemort returns.

Dumbledore wouldn't have just sat back and let this happen if he had the power to stop Voldemort.

It does makes sense when you put it all into context. He purposefully kept Harry safe in order for Voldemort to kill him later on. This was explicitly spelled out in the final film which is why Snape got pissed. Albus knew it had to be Harry to defeat him and the only way he knew this was due to the prophecy.

I'm not saying nothing else could defeat him, just that nothing else would.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Juggerman doesn't make a shred of sense. Anyone with a functioning brain knows Albus was terrified of Voldemort and his reign of terror until his demise. He planned meticulously in his later years to try to help bring Voldemort down.

More baseless bullshit from the troll 😂

Originally posted by juggerman
It does makes sense when you put it all into context. He purposefully kept Harry safe in order for Voldemort to kill him later on. This was explicitly spelled out in the final film which is why Snape got pissed. Albus knew it had to be Harry to defeat him and the only way he knew this was due to the prophecy.

I'm not saying nothing else could defeat him, just that nothing else would.

More baseless bullshit from the troll 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Says the guy purposely lying about the films for years now. Albus was terrified of Voldemort and what he was capable of and devoted his later years to planning with Snape in how to help defeat him. That's how damn amazing Voldemort is. He's the greatest dark wizard of all time.

More trolling. Albus stood up to Tom and Tommy ran like a bytch. We saw first hand who was terrified

Originally posted by juggerman
More trolling. Albus stood up to Tom and Tommy ran like a bytch. We saw first hand who was terrified

Originally posted by quanchi112
Context, Albus was the man who expressed fear and other Aurors showed up. Watch the film you witless hack.

Context. Albus stood up and gave Tom a stern look and Tommy hit the bricks. Tom fears glares

Originally posted by juggerman
Context. Albus stood up and gave Tom a stern look and Tommy hit the bricks. Tom fears glares

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Originally posted by juggerman
It does makes sense when you put it all into context. He purposefully kept Harry safe in order for Voldemort to kill him later on. This was explicitly spelled out in the final film which is why Snape got pissed. Albus knew it had to be Harry to defeat him and the only way he knew this was due to the prophecy.

I'm not saying nothing else could defeat him, just that nothing else would.

But this just isn't the case if you remember conversations Dumbledore had with Harry lol. Especially about the nature of prophecies. You need to ignore those discussions for this to make any sense.

For instance, remember Dumbledore talking about how it wasn't the prophecy making Harry want Voldemort dead? And how it was because of the way Voldemort himself reacted to the prophecy? And how it was over the fact Voldemort killed his parents, and thus of course that made Harry want to kill him?

Even Harry dying wasn't due to any prophecy, it was due to him having a piece of Voldemorts soul. It HAD to happen for Voldemort to truly die. So he wasn't telling Snape "kids gotta die because I heard a prophecy".

It wasn't even Harry on his own defeating Voldemort lol. Smarter and more skilled people were involved as well.

Originally posted by Surtur
But this just isn't the case if you remember conversations Dumbledore had with Harry lol. Especially about the nature of prophecies. You need to ignore those discussions for this to make any sense.

For instance, remember Dumbledore talking about how it wasn't the prophecy making Harry want Voldemort dead? And how it was because of the way Voldemort himself reacted to the prophecy? And how it was over the fact Voldemort killed his parents, and thus of course that made Harry want to kill him?

Even Harry dying wasn't due to any prophecy, it was due to him having a piece of Voldemorts soul. It HAD to happen for Voldemort to truly die. So he wasn't telling Snape "kids gotta die because I heard a prophecy".

It wasn't even Harry on his own defeating Voldemort lol. Smarter and more skilled people were involved as well.

Dumbledore kept many things from Harry though. He made sure Harry didn't know he had to let Tom kill him until RIGHT before he had to do it.

Voldemort chose who the prophecy was about but that doesn't mean it wasn't accurate. Voldemort could have chosen Neville and the prophecy would've still been intact just with a different "Chosen One". Vold chose the child

The prophecy predicted the events that occurred. Harry being born at the specified time and to the parents siring him, Voldemort marking him as his equal, him having a power Vold knows not, neither can live while the other survives. All that was 100% accurate. All the additional details fall within the over arching prophecy.

Harry had help yes but it needed to be Harry that beat him and Albus clearly believed it. He wouldn't have helped to pave the way for Harry if he didn't think Harry was the one the do it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just explained to you what occurred. Albus was there to protect Harry and he was unable to do so.

You explained your biased Tommy peen sucking version while ignoring facts. Tom was there to retrieve the prophecy and failed. He wanted to kill Harry and failed. He tried to kill Albus, failed. Tried to get Albus to kill Harry. Failed. And wanted to remain hidden. Guess what happened there...... Failures all around by Tommy

Originally posted by juggerman
You explained your biased Tommy peen sucking version while ignoring facts. Tom was there to retrieve the prophecy and failed. He wanted to kill Harry and failed. He tried to kill Albus, failed. Tried to get Albus to kill Harry. Failed. And wanted to remain hidden. Guess what happened there...... Failures all around by Tommy

Originally posted by quanchi112
Albus did die because he was not that great to evade his mortality due to guess whose dark magic. Voldemort. The wizard who sailed the ministry of magic and came to power while gay boi died. Poor gay boi. 😂

Wanna know what I noticed? Instead of trying to argue the losing point of Tom's multiple failures within a few minutes, you always try to divert the topic to a different movie 😂

Originally posted by juggerman
Wanna know what I noticed? Instead of trying to argue the losing point of Tom's multiple failures within a few minutes, you always try to divert the topic to a different movie 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
You cite Albus and he was the dead gay boi wizard. He failed you can't ignore the facts. Albus failed to stop Voldemort by himself. He failed to protect Harry in that scene. 😂

More spinning I see. Please explain Tommy MULTIPLE failures within a few moments 😂

Quanchi, by the time FB saga is over, you are going to love Grindelwald more than you love Voldemort! 😂

Grindelwald is one of the best duelists (Only surpassed by Albus) according to the Harry Potter's books. And the movies will likely follow the books.

Just admit it, Voldemort wasn't that great of a wizzard. Johnny Depp will certainly shadow him 😄

Originally posted by juggerman
More spinning I see. Please explain Tommy MULTIPLE failures within a few moments 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort left as soon as the Aurors showed and took Albus out of the equation in the next film. Albus went buh bye.

Still avoiding all the failures Tommy sustained eh?

Originally posted by juggerman
Still avoiding all the failures Tommy sustained eh?