Originally posted by Silent Master
We argue Standard Version unless otherwise stated and the OP did not say we were using the Rogue cut version of the movie, therefore per forum rules we are using the standard movie that was shown in the theaters.
We debate using the most current version of a character unless otherwise stated...
The Rogue Cut Sentinels are the most recent version of them...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
We debate using the most current version of a character unless otherwise stated...The Rogue Cut Sentinels are the most recent version of them...
Current version refers to new movies coming out and not special or limited editions of movies that include deleted footage.
However I'm more than willing to take this to a moderator, how about loser gets banned for 6 months?
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Those attributes of Thors didn't save him in the comics...Being an alien didn't matter one bit as pertains to him being vulnerable to Power Drain, so why would being an alien automatically make him immune here?
We're not discussing comics, we're discussing movies characters and their movie-powers/abilities
First of all you'd have to prove that the Sentinals have Rogue's draining powers, cos what they have is a mimicking mutant power based somehow off of Mystique's powers/dna (this is a plot point of the film)
After you prove that, you'd then have to prove Rogue's mutant powers work on someone (an alien no less) as powerful as Thor. Otherwise you're using a no limit fallacy.
In regards to your "Scarlet Witch messed with Thor's mind", that's a faulty comparison. In those films SW's powers were not mutant based, they came from an Infinity Stone, which does both exist in Thor's universe and is immensely powerful; why she's immensely powerful
Originally posted by Robtard
We're not discussing comics, we're discussing movies characters and their movie-powers/abilitiesFirst of all you'd have to prove that the Sentinals have Rogue's draining powers, cos what they have is a mimicking mutant power based somehow off of Mystique's powers/dna (this is a plot point of the film)
After you prove that, you'd then have to prove Rogue's mutant powers work on someone (an alien no less) as powerful as Thor. Otherwise you're using a no limit fallacy.
In regards to your "Scarlet Witch messed with Thor's mind", that's a faulty comparison. In those films SW's powers were not mutant based, they came from an Infinity Stone, which does both exist in Thor's universe and is immensely powerful; why she's immensely powerful
You havent seen the Rogue Cut of Days of Future Past either I see....
Otherwise you wouldnt have to ask for proof that the Sentinels have Rogues ability to Power Drain...
Whats up with all you people attempting to debate without having watched all the relevant material!?
Anyway, you guys are using faulty logic when you attempt to say "well Thors alien!! He's immune to Power Drain." You cant prove it...period.
I, on the other hand, can prove that Rogues power works on mutants and non mutants...
My case for her power working on Thor is alot stronger than you guys argument that it simply wont work "just because"...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You havent seen the Rogue Cut of Days of Future Past either I see....Otherwise you wouldnt have to ask for proof that the Sentinels have Rogues ability to Power Drain...
Whats up with all you people attempting to debate without having watched all the relevant material!?
Anyway, you guys are using faulty logic when you attempt to say "well Thors alien!! He's immune to Power Drain." You cant prove it...period.
I, on the other hand, can prove that Rogues power works on mutants and non mutants...
My case for her power working on Thor is alot stronger than you guys argument that it simply wont work "just because"...
You are wrong. She gets her powers from the infinity gem.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You havent seen the Rogue Cut of Days of Future Past either I see....Otherwise you wouldnt have to ask for proof that the Sentinels have Rogues ability to Power Drain...
Whats up with all you people attempting to debate without having watched all the relevant material!?
Anyway, you guys are using faulty logic when you attempt to say "well Thors alien!! He's immune to Power Drain." You cant prove it...period.
I, on the other hand, can prove that Rogues power works on mutants and non mutants...
My case for her power working on Thor is alot stronger than you guys argument that it simply wont work "just because"...
No, you haven't. You've proven the power works on humans, and human-mutants. The same race, with slight genetic variances that account for super powered mutations. Mutants are not some entirely divergent species that is separate from humans. Because humans give birth to mutants. And several experts on the topic have stated that mutants are just humans with a little extra. Not a completely different species.
So the powers have worked on one species. Prove it works on another that is from a different plane of existence, different planet, and has different genetic makeup.
Oh, and like Rob and Sable said, we see Wanda and Pietro get powered up by Strucker's experiments with the Tesseract, which is revealed later to be the Space Stone. So it working on Thor(as the Reality Stone/Aether in Malekith's posession worked on him as well) means nothing as Infinity Stones trump everything in MCU.
Originally posted by KingD19
No, you haven't. You've proven the power works on humans, and human-mutants. The same race, with slight genetic variances that account for super powered mutations. Mutants are not some entirely divergent species that is separate from humans. Because humans give birth to mutants. And several experts on the topic have stated that mutants are just humans with a little extra. Not a completely different species.So the powers have worked on one species. Prove it works on another that is from a different plane of existence, different planet, and has different genetic makeup.
Oh, and like Rob and Sable said, we see Wanda and Pietro get powered up by Strucker's experiments with the Tesseract, which is revealed later to be the Space Stone. So it working on Thor(as the Reality Stone/Aether in Malekith's posession worked on him as well) means nothing as Infinity Stones trump everything in MCU.
Mutants are not humans thus they are classified differently...
Mutants=Homo Superior...
Humans=Homo Sapiens...
If mutants were humans then they'd all be Homo Sapiens...
Common sense for the win...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You havent seen the Rogue Cut of Days of Future Past either I see....Otherwise you wouldnt have to ask for proof that the Sentinels have Rogues ability to Power Drain...
Whats up with all you people attempting to debate without having watched all the relevant material!?
Anyway, you guys are using faulty logic when you attempt to say "well Thors alien!! He's immune to Power Drain." You cant prove it...period.
I, on the other hand, can prove that Rogues power works on mutants and non mutants...
My case for her power working on Thor is alot stronger than you guys argument that it simply wont work "just because"...
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