Welfare: How do we fix it

https://journalistsresource.org/studies/economics/inequality/food-stamps-gender-obesity

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2015/cb15-97.html

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/12/the-politics-and-demographics-of-food-stamp-recipients/

"The share of food stamp beneficiaries swells even further when respondents are asked if someone else living in their household had ever received food stamps. According to the survey, about three in ten Democrats (31%) and about half as many Republicans (17%) say they or someone in their household has benefitted from the food stamp program."

"Minority women in particular are far more likely than their male counterparts to have used food stamps. About four-in-ten black women (39%) have gotten help compared with 21% of black men. The gender-race participation gap is also wide among Hispanics: 31% of Hispanic women but 14% of Hispanic men received assistance.

Among whites, the gender-race gap is smaller. Still, white women are about twice as likely as white men to receive food stamp assistance (19% vs. 11%)."

"THIS IS UNSUSTAINABLE

https://womenslawproject.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/debunking-the-myth-of-the-%E2%80%9Cwelfare-queen%E2%80%9D-who-actually-receives-tanf-benefits/

Now look at the blatant lying in this article. Read the comments.

First thing to do is to separate out the people who legit need government assistance and the ones who are leeches; ones who could work, but prefer to take advantage of a poorly regulated system.

And I'm not just talking about food stamps, but workers compensation and disability leeches, those people are the worst.

Originally posted by Robtard
First thing to do is to separate out the people who legit need government assistance and the ones who are leeches; ones who could work, but prefer to take advantage of a poorly regulated system.

And I'm not just talking about food stamps, but workers compensation and disability leeches, those people are the worst.

I agree with Rob leeches can't be tolerated. And since it seems there are more liberals than conservatives getting these benefits, I'm guessing some need them because they just need to protest all the time. Not everyone gets paid by George Soros to do so. Black masks and knives and tasers do not just pay for themselves you know.

So great point Rob, valid. Those people are just awful.

Originally posted by Robtard
First thing to do is to separate out the people who legit need government assistance and the ones who are leeches; ones who could work, but prefer to take advantage of a poorly regulated system.

And I'm not just talking about food stamps, but workers compensation and disability leeches, those people are the worst.

did you read the articles? work comp is a problem but let's be honest about where the vast majority of leeching is taking place. it's only a recent phenomena that the poorest are also the most obese...further taxing the system because the medical issues with obesity.

I'd appreciate if people read the entirety of all the articles. They aren't long.

We need to address these problems as a country.

https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Legal-and-Illegal-Immigrant-Households

Originally posted by Surtur
I agree with Rob leeches can't be tolerated. And since it seems there are more liberals than conservatives getting these benefits, I'm guessing some need them because they just need to protest all the time. Not everyone gets paid by George Soros to do so. Black masks and knives and tasers do not just pay for themselves you know.

So great point Rob, valid. Those people are just awful.

Oh Surtur...

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh Surtur...

It's okay Rob, we finally agree on something.

let's stay on track please

Originally posted by Raisen
I'd appreciate if people read the entirety of all the articles. They aren't long.

We need to address these problems as a country.

I have an idea of one way at least some money can be saved. If you are already someone who needs welfare you cannot give birth to any children while on welfare. Obviously we can't physically stop this, but we can make it so there would not be an increase in money because the person decided to have a child. I think this is a valid concern considering more women than men seem to get these things.

Originally posted by Surtur
I have an idea of one way at least some money can be saved. If you are already someone who needs welfare you cannot give birth to any children while on welfare. Obviously we can't physically stop this, but we can make it so there would not be an increase in money because the person decided to have a child. I think this is a valid concern considering more women than men seem to get these things.

absolutely agree.

Originally posted by Raisen
did you read the articles? work comp is a problem but let's be honest about where the vast majority of leeching is taking place. it's only a recent phenomena that the poorest are also the most obese...further taxing the system because the medical issues with obesity.

Not sure what you want to do about obesity. Being fat made illegal?

I'm all for health awareness and better eating being pushed to the front. eg schools in my area did away with junk food in snacks machines and school lunches are actually low sugar and overall healthy, ingraining the "eat healthy" early on. But you get certain people crying "muh freedoms! tyranny!" cos the school banned the Coca-Cola and Frito-Lay corporations

Originally posted by Surtur
It's okay Rob, we finally agree on something.

No, what happened is you embarrassed yourself again but crying about your dreaded "it's them liberals!" again. Everyone saw it and it was noted. Do better for yourself. Moving on.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure what you want to do about obesity. Being fat made illegal?

I'm all for health awareness and better eating tips. eg schools in my area did away with junk food in snacks machines and school lunches are actually low sugar and overall healthy, ingraining the "eat healthy" early on. But you get certain people crying "muh freedoms! tyranny!" cos the school banned the Coca-Cola and Frito-Lay corporations

the idea that our "poor", that tax payers pay for, are living such a life that they can actually get to the level of being obese and further become a financial burden.

I understand that in this day and age calorically dense food is cheaper than healthier food that is more perishable. However, this is also indicative that they are receiving more than sustainable amounts of benefits.

Originally posted by Robtard
No, what happened is you embarrassed yourself again but crying about your dreaded "it's them liberals!" again. Everyone saw it and it was noted. Do better for yourself. Moving on.

No Rob, we agree. Leeches are bad. Moving on.

Originally posted by Raisen
the idea that our "poor", that tax payers pay for, are living such a life that they can actually get to the level of being obese and further become a financial burden.

I understand that in this day and age calorically dense food is cheaper than healthier food that is more perishable. However, this is also indicative that they are receiving more than sustainable amounts of benefits.

Well they implemented a "soda tax" here. Supposed to be aimed at sugary drinks, even though it also taxes stuff without sugar lol. But most people I know just drive to another county to get soda now. Retailers in this county lost business, but people haven't really been consuming less soda.

can you two not let your idiotic rivalry ruin a legit discussion.

Originally posted by Raisen
the idea that our "poor", that tax payers pay for, are living such a life that they can actually get to the level of being obese and further become a financial burden.

I understand that in this day and age calorically dense food is cheaper than healthier food that is more perishable. However, this is also indicative that they are receiving more than sustainable amounts of benefits.

Like I said, crunch down and separate the people into two groups A) People that legit need assistance and B) The leeches who abuse the system (they know who they are), this should be the first stage.

That right there will safe millions, maybe billions. Then you look at the people who need assistance and you see if there's ways where they can get off and do for themselves, if possible.

Also not 100% sure you "They're fat, so they have too much" is correct, at least not in today's junk food era. You can get 5,000 calories of mostly sugar based foods for very cheap. Making a person overweight and cheaply.