Black Lives Matter says Liberalism is White Supremacy

Originally posted by Surtur
[B]Lol well it needs to be pointed out it is just a meme. Though it doesn't say racism ended with the civil war, it says slavery did.

Also, I feel there's an important asterix to add here:
The civil war was about protecting the union, not ending slavery. The union became anti-slavery because taking away slaves who the south depended on so that they could fight for the north was mainly because it would, and did, turn the tide of the war which Lincoln's general's had managed to fck up because of internal disputes regarding slavery.

Prior to the war, Lincoln both privately and publicly denounced blacks as lesser than whites and at best was hoping for an eventual emancipation that likely involved salves being shipped off and left to their own devices in Africa.

This is one topic where I'm especially knowledgeable since I extensively researched Lincoln when writing a generally pro-Lincoln paper about him.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Except that racism didn't end with the winning of the civil war.

It's dishonest to suggest the more recent movements are just separate isolated events rather than a single movement that's brought us closer to equality over time.

1. Agreed about racism.

2. I don't believe these riots are only about racism. Even if the rioters think it is.

About the only good liberal activists have done is let poor minorites realize how ****ed they are, stirred the pot constantly, and profited off their anger.

Sad thing is, the white bigots make it easy for them. Poor racists vs poor blacks is easy money if you're in the yellow journalism business..

Originally posted by cdtm
1. Agreed about racism.

2. I don't believe these riots are only about racism. Even if the rioters think it is.

About the only good liberal activists have done is let poor minorites realize how ****ed they are, stirred the pot constantly, and profited off their anger.

Sad thing is, the white bigots make it easy for them. Poor racists vs poor blacks is easy money if you're in the yellow journalism business..

That is the bizarre thing. The black community has more or less stayed loyal to the democrats, despite not really having any valid reasons to do so anymore.

Their reason is to keep voting democrat no matter what.

Originally posted by cdtm

2. I don't believe these riots are only about racism. Even if the rioters think it is.

About the only good liberal activists have done is let poor minorites realize how ****ed they are, stirred the pot constantly, and profited off their anger.

Sad thing is, the white bigots make it easy for them. Poor racists vs poor blacks is easy money if you're in the yellow journalism business..

Not that rioting is good.

Originally posted by Surtur
That is the bizarre thing. The black community has more or less stayed loyal to the democrats, despite not really having any valid reasons to do so anymore.

This isn't to say they were purely motivated by having a good heart, or they were completely non-racist, though that's true of likely any equality movement ever.

Yes. Blacks have most def Prospered under Democrat Rule.
Their Families are in shambles, their neighborhoods and cities are literal hell on earth and they are all but enslaved to the welfare system run by said democrats.

Its Good Times all around

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Likely because Democrats provided stronger support for civil rights than Republicans did.

This isn't to say they were purely motivated by having a good heart, or they were completely non-racist, though that's true of likely any equality movement ever.

But how do they not see they are being manipulated and the Dems are pursuing those causes mainly to get their votes? That is part of the reason why they always seem to be very quick to label someone a racist even when they aren't being racist. As long as they can convince minorities that the conservative side is filled mostly with racists these groups will continue to vote democrat no matter how bad the situations in their communities get.

They know there were a lot of people who voted for Trump merely because they can't stand Hilary. This is why some people try to spin it and equate a vote for Trump as essentially a vote in support of the racist qualities they perceive him to have.

Originally posted by Surtur
But how do they not see they are being manipulated and the Dems are pursuing those causes mainly to get their votes?

Originally posted by Surtur
That is part of the reason why they always seem to be very quick to label someone a racist even when they aren't being racist.

Also, don't take this personally, but what you just said about black people being easily manipulated can very reasonably taken to have implicit racist undertones.

You imply the vast majority of black people are supporting democrats because they're being gullible, rather than considering that Republicans may not be doing a good enough job to earn their votes.

Why should we assume that minorities are being dumb when they vote overwhelmingly in favor of democrats? Why would we not assume white people are just being dumb when they vote overwhelmingly in favor of republicans?

Generalizations like the one you're making does absolutely no good for discussion. If you feel there are democratic policies which are specifically hurting black people, then be specific, don't make a sweeping generalization that black people are voting for democrats rather than republicans because they're gullible.

Originally posted by Surtur
As long as they can convince minorities that the conservative side is filled mostly with racists these groups will continue to vote democrat no matter how bad the situations in their communities get.

Also, at the moment, Republicans control all the branches of the government. If things get worse, they should bear the brunt of the blame.

Originally posted by Surtur
They know there were a lot of people who voted for Trump merely because they can't stand Hilary. This is why some people try to spin it and equate a vote for Trump as essentially a vote in support of the racist qualities they perceive him to have. [/B]

And there's no denying that part of Trump's support came from racists, just as part of Hilarly's support likely came for people who are genuinely "extreme leftists".

The problem with political discussion today is instead of being specific, we look at things and discuss things way to broadly, rather than getting at what matters the most regarding policy, the details.

'Classical Liberalism' is just gayer libertarianism

Lol but...no, there are not racist undertones in every single thing they scream racism about. Sean Spicer told a reporter to stop nodding her head. But because she was female and black they screamed sexism and racism. It wasn't either of those things. Trump talks about making America great or about how great western civilization is and..."racist dog whistles!" is the moronic response.

That one guy, I forget his name, but he owned Jim Acosta when that imbecile brought up "herp derp but there is nothing about speaking english on the statue of liberty". During that encounter he used the word cosmopolitan. The media seized upon it also a racist "dog whistle" because of the anti-semitic origins or something. But...the guy who said it is Jewish lol. And side note dear god that shows you where some on the left are at, when they thin saying something isn't written on a statue is a valid defense.

And no, saying a group of people get manipulated is not racist lol. If I said their race was the reason they are manipulated you could shout racism.

It's because the democrats know who to pander to. They paint the other side as racist so they can continue to get votes. Anyone falling for that is dumb as hell, regardless of race.

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol but...no, there are not racist undertones in every single thing they scream racism about.

Originally posted by Surtur
Sean Spicer told a reporter to stop nodding her head. But because she was female and black they screamed sexism and racism. It wasn't either of those things. Trump talks about making America great or about how great western civilization is and..."racist dog whistles!" is the moronic response.

Originally posted by Surtur
That one guy, I forget his name, but he owned Jim Acosta when that imbecile brought up "herp derp but there is nothing about speaking english on the statue of liberty". During that encounter he used the word cosmopolitan. The media seized upon it also a racist "dog whistle" because of the anti-semitic origins or something. But...the guy who said it is Jewish lol. And side note dear god that shows you where some on the left are at, when they thin saying something isn't written on a statue is a valid defense.

Originally posted by Surtur
And no, saying a group of people get manipulated is not racist lol. If I said their race was the reason they are manipulated you could shout racism.

I I was to say that Republicans are just manipulating white people to vote for them, would you be ok with that?

Don't generalize.

Originally posted by Surtur
It's because the democrats know who to pander to. They paint the other side as racist so they can continue to get votes. Anyone falling for that is dumb as hell, regardless of race.