Raqqa, the last stronghold of ISIS, has been retaken.

Originally posted by Surtur
Rob, I didn't ask if anyone could be convinced. I was asking about the ease in with which they would be convinced in comparison to others. Again, I feel like because you just felt you needed to make the distinction you did, you know the Muslims could be more easily convinced.

What you did is initially dodge my point because it destroyed your narrative while putting forth your own biased agenda. I've made that clear and used an example to show that.

But I guess we can now rank Buddhist as being just as "bad" as Muslims, using your rules. Poor Buddhist.

Originally posted by Robtard
What you did is initially dodge my point because it destroyed your narrative while putting forth your own biased agenda. I've made that clear and used an example to show that.

But I guess we can now rank Buddhist as being just as "bad" as Muslims, using your rules. Poor Buddhist.

Lol but Rob...can you show me where I say they would never do that? I said it would be easier to convince Muslims to do it.

So no, Buddhists aren't as bad as Muslims lol. Not even close.

Now Rob, a true sign of how serious you should be taken is if you come and try to pull your "oh you're flipping!" stuff. Since I never said these things are impossible, I never said any man is 100% immune. I said a certain group might be more easily swayed than others. Do you honestly disagree?

"it would be easier to convince muslims to do it" is not only conjecture, but proves nothing regarding Rob's point.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
"it would be easier to convince muslims to do it" is not only conjecture, but proves nothing regarding Rob's point.

And his point is irrelevant to me. Because my point isn't that only Muslims get angry over seeing people they care about die.

My point is that their ideology is more welcoming to this suicidal "I'll explode you and it'll be okay if I kill folk when I do it!" mentality.

Do you disagree with me on that?

Originally posted by Surtur
And his point is irrelevant to me.

If you're not going to address what someone is saying, why address them at all?

My point is that their ideology is more welcoming to this suicidal "I'll explode you and it'll be okay if I kill folk when I do it!" mentality.

Do you disagree with me on that?

I can assure you though that as the vast vast majority of Muslims don't try and killing people, the "Ideology" only applies to radicals, it doesn't speak for Muslims as a whole.

And whether or not they're muslim Christian, or Buddhist, if you commit transgressions towards a group of people, they're more likely to respond aggressively.

He has to continue avoiding my point and push his own agenda because he knows what I said is true and it doesn't gel with his prejudices towards Muslims.

Originally posted by socool8520
There is no guarantee things would be better. Less precision bombs? Sure, but still the same amount of suicide bombs. Don't really see a stoppage of coups or rampant murder either.

Originally posted by carthage
It's utterly meaningless they still have cells across Europe, and multiple generations of children in Libya, Syria, Yemen, and Afghanistan who lived under a constant state of warfare due to US foreign policy. These kids will then become the future Salafists and radical extremists built off of the wars of the 2000s. ISIS is the symptom of a larger epidemic hag isn't going away and there will be another group to replace them so long as we keep killing people in the Middle East. We've not even begun to see the end of the repercussions for our foreign policy

To claim that the fall of the caliphate is utterly meaningless is to misunderstand the movement we are up against. ISIS was such a potent entity at recruiting potential radicals worldwide precisely because of what their existence symbolized: an actual caliphate that was ruled by Sharia Law. This is the visionary idea that groups like Al Queada preached from day one. And they only ever managed to partially begin to realize that dream by taking refuge under Taliban rule. But ISIS literally started conquering land to serve as the bedrock for the caliphate that they envision will someday rule the world. The fall of such a caliphate can only be bad news for ISIS.

It obviously doesn't mean the end of Islamic extremism, but that's an entirely different matter. And your conceptualization of Islamic terror as being purely motivated by the backlash against US military operations is short-sighted, to say the least. It's just as much a rejection of modern liberal western values as it is a rejection of US military presence in the Middle East.

IT is always fun to see Robbie keep using the same old plays out of the Liberal's Political Playbook.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
This is one of the most cynical things I've ever read.

To claim that the fall of the caliphate is utterly meaningless is to misunderstand the movement we are up against. ISIS was such a potent entity at recruiting potential radicals worldwide precisely because of what their existence symbolized: an actual caliphate that was ruled by Sharia Law. This is the visionary idea that groups like Al Queada preached from day one. And they only ever managed to partially begin to realize that dream by taking refuge under Taliban rule. But ISIS literally started conquering land to serve as the bedrock for the caliphate that they envision will someday rule the world. The fall of such a caliphate can only be bad news for ISIS.

It obviously doesn't mean the end of Islamic extremism, but that's an entirely different matter. And your conceptualization of Islamic terror as being purely motivated by the backlash against US military operations is short-sighted, to say the least. It's just as much a rejection of modern liberal western values as it is a rejection of US military presence in the Middle East.

Seriously, this. No matter how much people want to close their eyes, Islamic Fundamentalism is a thing and a pretty huge a thing as it is.

Yeah but they vote Leftist Progressive in the Countries they erm....MIGRATE TOO ...so all that can be overlooked.