Originally posted by DarkSaint85
KOing Black Adam, trapping Orion, the usual 'turn enemies into ice/gas/roses' type feats.....
Its no secret i like putting characters together who usually get insta wins, to see which one gives/how few responses i get.
This seemed a good one.
I agree great idea Riv.
Magneto would have been owned by Owen Reese even back in the earlier days before MM became all Dr. Manhattan-like. He was clearly more powerful than Magneto in the first Secret Wars. I have no doubt that Firestorm could easily replicate many if not all of MM's feats.
Firestorm in Marvel would likely be a beast.
This typically boils down to inter company interpretation. being able to control the molecules of most or all physical substances in the known multiverse is huge in Marvel, but not so much in DC.
Originally posted by riv6672
And salt. Dont forget salt.
Then again, nothing gets through Magneto's FF.Its no secret i like putting characters together who usually get insta wins, to see which one gives/how few responses i get.
This seemed a good one.
One would hope air gets through, otherwise I don't fancy an old man's chances under strain.
Then again, Firestorm has messed with Zeta Beam energy and the Omega Beams, so I still rate his chances highly here.
Originally posted by Stoic
I agree great idea Riv....This typically boils down to inter company interpretation. being able to control the molecules of most or all physical substances in the known multiverse is huge in Marvel, but not so much in DC.
Your inter company observation has always fascinated me.
A couple of more examples that always stood out to me are pertain to characters like Quasar and Iron Man.
At Marvel, the pretty solid GL analogue has never been rated highly, and armored characters at DC arent really seen as A list, not even Steel, who's come closest.
Originally posted by Stoic
I agree great idea Riv.Magneto would have been owned by Owen Reese even back in the earlier days before MM became all Dr. Manhattan-like. He was clearly more powerful than Magneto in the first Secret Wars. I have no doubt that Firestorm could easily replicate many if not all of MM's feats.
Firestorm in Marvel would likely be a beast.
This typically boils down to inter company interpretation. being able to control the molecules of most or all physical substances in the known multiverse is huge in Marvel, but not so much in DC.
Here's Firestorm vs Molecule Man 😛
If you're wondering, Sersi blew them all away. Molecule Man gets trapped by FS.
Originally posted by Stoic
There's one thing bugging me about Magneto. Could he possibly bend a portion of Firestorm's energy signature? he has manipulated certain wavelengths in the past right?
He's done just EM - tbf, it's more likely that Firestorm cuts HIM off.
Firestorm against Zeta beam radiation:
https://s5.postimg.org/54577nvp3/firestorm_travel.jpg
Against...well, every kind of energy there is out there:
https://s5.postimg.org/umxjks2fb/fs2-2.jpg
These are the guy who went out to fight Alex Luthor. Magic from the Starheart, GL energy, starbolt energy...and Ion Kyle Rayner:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/o870dnyOnF_uWn3omAAzSh9PsZtUFgV0eihJHyoGBDB8uCY5E_ARzUCUNk2o69tazyU4bOd70gCn=s1600
He can also just switch his X-gene off:
https://s5.postimg.org/afk3sdx7b/fs_kf1.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/fqz0d3qzr/fs_kf2.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/x49ary6vb/fs_kf3.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/oyr8tu0mv/fs_kf6.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/5gwldwbev/fs_kf7.jpg
Or just mess with energy generally:
https://s5.postimg.org/5tnzk3gtz/fs_radiation3.jpg
Shields? This guy Carapax had shields which stood up to Superman:
https://s5.postimg.org/5gwldwquf/fs_supeshelp1.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/6vy62mk7r/fs_supeshelp2.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/pbin01lhj/fs_supeshelp3.jpg
Internal attacks ftw.
Or he can just turn the air into ether. Unless Mags makes his own air....
https://s5.postimg.org/uzoxqvsdz/fs_bludhaven1.jpg
Or FS can just go intangible:
https://s5.postimg.org/8nr4xigfb/fs_kalibak4.jpg
Conclusion of that fight:
https://s5.postimg.org/rg301353r/fs_kalibak6.jpg
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's done just EM - tbf, it's more likely that Firestorm cuts HIM off.Firestorm against Zeta beam radiation:
https://s5.postimg.org/54577nvp3/firestorm_travel.jpgAgainst...well, every kind of energy there is out there:
https://s5.postimg.org/umxjks2fb/fs2-2.jpgThese are the guy who went out to fight Alex Luthor. Magic from the Starheart, GL energy, starbolt energy...and Ion Kyle Rayner:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/o870dnyOnF_uWn3omAAzSh9PsZtUFgV0eihJHyoGBDB8uCY5E_ARzUCUNk2o69tazyU4bOd70gCn=s1600He can also just switch his X-gene off:
https://s5.postimg.org/afk3sdx7b/fs_kf1.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/fqz0d3qzr/fs_kf2.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/x49ary6vb/fs_kf3.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/oyr8tu0mv/fs_kf6.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/5gwldwbev/fs_kf7.jpgOr just mess with energy generally:
https://s5.postimg.org/5tnzk3gtz/fs_radiation3.jpgShields? This guy Carapax had shields which stood up to Superman:
https://s5.postimg.org/5gwldwquf/fs_supeshelp1.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/6vy62mk7r/fs_supeshelp2.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/pbin01lhj/fs_supeshelp3.jpgInternal attacks ftw.
Or he can just turn the air into ether. Unless Mags makes his own air....
https://s5.postimg.org/uzoxqvsdz/fs_bludhaven1.jpgOr FS can just go intangible:
https://s5.postimg.org/8nr4xigfb/fs_kalibak4.jpg
Conclusion of that fight:
https://s5.postimg.org/rg301353r/fs_kalibak6.jpg
For reference:
Originally posted by Philosophía
[b]Magneto vs Proteus*Magneto is dying and not at full power
*Magneto can manipulate forms of energy even outside of the electromagnetic spectrum -- and does so by taking control of Proteus's body and modifying his energy matrix.
"Energy, Proteus. Just electrons dancing."
[/B]
Originally posted by Philosophía
I can see Magneto affecting the Firestorm Matrix and reverting back to human, tbh. Kind of like he did to Proteus.
He needed time to study Proteus, though. The Firestorm Matrix? He'd be lucky not to be forcibly merged into it and killed:
https://s5.postimg.org/eootus5o7/fs_merge3.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/h60l21xaf/fs_merge6.jpg
It depends how fast you think Magneto would sense and manipulate it - especially since he already has experience doing so against a reality warper [not whole, but still].
I know it's Darkseid, but it gives you an idea:
http://firestormfan.com/images/firestormv3_35a.jpg
