1 Child vs 1,000 Embryos

Originally posted by Emperordmb
I'm not even sure Surt is pro-life lol, I think he just thinks this guy's argument is retarded.

Indeed, I'm not pro life. I'm pro choice, at least if it's done within the first trimester.

But the more one thinks about this the less sense it makes. Because a majority of abortions done aren't actually performed because there is a danger to the mother. So this is silly. We already favor saving the person over the fetus if there is danger. So he doesn't actually accomplish what he thinks he does if a person says "save the child". He acts like posing this question is going to cause a pro life person to have some sort of meltdown or epiphany about life. Epic failure lol.

Originally posted by Surtur
Indeed, I'm not pro life. I'm pro choice, at least if it's done within the first trimester.

But the more one thinks about this the less sense it makes. Because a majority of abortions done aren't actually performed because there is a danger to the mother. So this is silly. We already favor saving the person over the fetus if there is danger. So he doesn't actually accomplish what he thinks he does if a person says "save the child". He acts like posing this question is going to cause a pro life person to have some sort of meltdown or epiphany about life. Epic failure lol.

I am in full support of this....The apparant IGNORING of a certain Poster in this thread that is. hee hee

good, now learn to ignore your crack pipe for a bit.

Yep....great new trend.

Originally posted by juggerman
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/sci-fi-writer-baffles-abortion-foes-with-simple-question-would-you-save-1000-embryos-or-one-child-in-fire/

Thoughts?

On the grounds that a pro-life person believes an embryo is equal to a human life; which is often the anti-abortion argument, this guy

So in your "LEARNED OPINION" Robbie. When does "It" become a "Human"? Pre or Post Birth?

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]So in your "LEARNED OPINION" Robbie. When does "It" become a "Human"? Pre or Post Birth? [/B]

The hilarious thing is the guy didn't nail it at all.

Yeah but the baby pic was cute.

Originally posted by Surtur
The hilarious thing is the guy didn't nail it at all.

This is why you had to strawman his actual argument/point to counter it?

still waiting for a single honest answer

here, watch: i would save the kid and leave the embryos. in fact i would save a kitten and leave the embryos.

Watch that Daily Post Count there Bashy....

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
still waiting for a single honest answer

here, watch: i would save the kid and leave the embryos. in fact i would save a kitten and leave the embryos.

You don't see an embryo as being equal to a human life, so this question doesn't really pertain to you. While a pro-life person's argument is many a time that "human life starts at conception", ergo their choice as proposed by this person's argument is: "save one human life or save 1,000 human lives", when we all know none of them would likely choose the embryos over the child.

Originally posted by Robtard
This is why you had to strawman his actual argument/point to counter it?

I used common sense and facts to counter it. He is describing a situation where it is a human life vs embryos. But most pro life people already concede abortion should be done if it's a danger to the mother.

But most abortions aren't life or death. He failed in his attempt. It's time to accept that.

Originally posted by Surtur
I used common sense and facts to counter it. He is describing a situation where it is a human life vs embryos. But most pro life people already concede abortion should be done if it's a danger to the mother.

But most abortions aren't life or death. He failed in his attempt. It's time to accept that.

Incorrect, many a time the pro-life argument is that life starts at conception; this is the argument he's attacking.

You failed in your strawmanning again as obviously he's not talking to people who are okay with abortions in the first 8 or so weeks or people who are okay with exchanging one-life for one-life.

Originally posted by Robtard
Incorrect, many a time the pro-life argument is that life starts at conception; this is the argument he's attacking.

You failed in your strawmanning again as obviously he's not talking to people who are okay with abortions in the first 8 or so weeks.

No, it's not incorrect. Most pro life people support abortion if it is a danger to the mother. You are done, it failed. I know you wanted a "gotcha" but it won't be here. Sucks for you.

Originally posted by Robtard
You don't see an embryo as being equal to a human life, so this question doesn't really pertain to you. While a pro-life person's argument is many a time that "human life starts at conception", ergo their choice as proposed by this person's argument is: "save one human life or save 1,000 human lives", when we all know none of them would likely choose the embryos over the child.

Hah, I never subscribed to the conception argument.

More a "I think, therefore I am. Which would never have happened if my folks got an abortion."

I'm well aware there's an entire mess with this logic where gallons of wasted sperm and eggs may also have resulted in my non existance.. It's pretty hard to wrap ones head around, much less take seriously.

All I know is, I was that egg once. I happen to value my existence enough to wonder "what if", and can't really say "heck with that case, scrape them out."

Originally posted by Surtur
No, it's not incorrect. Most pro life people support abortion if it is a danger to the mother. You are done, it failed. I know you wanted a "gotcha" but it won't be here. Sucks for you.

Originally posted by Robtard
This is why he said "1,000 embryos" and not "1 embryo" you flipping fool, he's not taking about a single life for a single life. Try and attack the argument he made; not the one you invented.

It doesn't matter, we still have people putting the life of the person before it. It failed. Like I said: there will be no gotcha.

Originally posted by cdtm
Hah, I never subscribed to the conception argument.

More a "I think, therefore I am. Which would never have happened if my folks got an abortion."

I'm well aware there's an entire mess with this logic where gallons of wasted sperm and eggs may also have resulted in my non existance.. It's pretty hard to wrap ones head around, much less take seriously.

All I know is, I was that egg once. I happen to value my existence enough to wonder "what if", and can't really say "heck with that case, scrape them out."

Hence his argument doesn't really apply to you, he's arguing against the 'life beings at conception' type of mindset