Karate Kid Vs Invincible

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Mark would've died without the armor and the time and protection it provided him.

Marvel heralds don't have Kleenex for body tissue. Nefaria never punched a hole in Simon and neither would Thragg.

Nefaria is Supreme level believe it or not. Thragg would push Supreme around based on Supreme's run in with Omni Man. Apparently, Supreme was well above Gladiator in power if that makes it a little clearer. What is Simon to Gladiator again? Sorry bro, but it just doesn't measure up on any conceivable level.

Figuratively speaking, how would that make sense to you?

Originally posted by Stoic
Nefaria is Supreme level believe it or not. Thragg would push Supreme around based on Supreme's run in with Omni Man. Apparently, Supreme was well above Gladiator in power if that makes it a little clearer. What is Simon to Gladiator again? Sorry bro, but it just doesn't measure up on any conceivable level.

Figuratively speaking, how would that make sense to you?

Supreme doesn't have the showings to match Nefaria's against the most powerful Avengers lineups. Nefaria dominated a Thor who actually used Mjolnir offensively besides a melee weapon. Nefaria has taken on the East and West Coast Avengers at once.

Simon is the guy that had Thor on his last legs and has battled head on with The Hulk in an extended fight.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Supreme doesn't have the showings to match Nefaria's against the most powerful Avengers lineups. Nefaria dominated a Thor who actually used Mjolnir offensively besides a melee weapon. Nefaria has taken on the East and West Coast Avengers at once.

Simon is the guy that had Thor on his last legs and has battled head on with The Hulk in an extended fight.

Gladiator runs at about half Nefaria. Supreme is 2X more powerful than Gladiator. Pay attention while the suspension of disbelief takes effect.

Originally posted by Stoic
Gladiator runs at about half Nefaria. Supreme is 2X more powerful than Gladiator. Pay attention while the suspension of disbelief takes effect.

Where are you getting these metrics from?

Did a creator state this? Or is there some crossover I missed?

Good reading, and some scenes to Google now.

Honestly, Thragg and Mark getting their skin burned off by the sun knocks their durability down a few pegs for me.

The likes of Gladiator takes dives in suns, and it hurts him about as much as a steam bath. The various Daxamites and Superman are at least as strong as Kallark, if not stronger..

Originally posted by cdtm
Honestly, Thragg and Mark getting their skin burned off by the sun knocks their durability down a few pegs for me.

The likes of Gladiator takes dives in suns, and it hurts him about as much as a steam bath. The various Daxamites and Superman are at least as strong as Kallark, if not stronger..

Not only that, but kryptonians and daxamites gain their powers from the sun, so that point is moot.

Kallark doesn't, though.

There's other things, like Space Racer needing to clear a path for the Viltrumites to make it through a planet, or Allen the Alien, who is certainly > Invincible, getting pretty messed up from a relatively low yield bomb.

Most arguments for Viltrumites = Superman tier come from their fight with Supreme, which in turn is based off his fight with Gladiator. The very definition of ABC logic. 😉

Originally posted by cdtm
Kallark doesn't, though.

There's other things, like Space Racer needing to clear a path for the Viltrumites to make it through a planet, or Allen the Alien, who is certainly > Invincible, getting pretty messed up from a relatively low yield bomb.

Most arguments for Viltrumites = Superman tier come from their fight with Supreme, which in turn is based off his fight with Gladiator. The very definition of ABC logic. 😉

Allen is undeniably beneath Mark and Mark tanked a nuke so.......Viltrumites can travel multiple times faster than the speed of light and I'd imagine that crashing into any sort of celestial body at that speed would hurt without a little preparation.

Lastly, Mark has dropped a moon on Martin the Martian as well as being stated to be the most powerful character in the multiverse.