Raped in prison

Originally posted by Raisen
i'm not disputing what you said and i'm not saying you arent' objective surt. just responding to my part in my mistake interpreting rob's comment

Oh I know, it's just Rob seems to think I was arguing something I wasn't.

Originally posted by Surtur
Oh I know, it's just Rob seems to think I was arguing something I wasn't.

^ cowardice

Originally posted by Robtard
^ cowardice

So just to be clear, you feel I indeed was saying you feel a dude being raped isn't as bad if he is gay?

Originally posted by Raisen
rob and adam.

i have a side question. if you were strapped with a shank, like a lot of inmates are. do you try to stab the guy while being raped or no? why or why not?

Stab, cos you're trying to stop an in progress assault.

Originally posted by Robtard
Stab, cos you're trying to stop an in progress assault.

ok. so it appears you aren't fully in line with adam's reasoning of things.

Originally posted by Surtur
So just to be clear, you feel I indeed was saying you feel a dude being raped isn't as bad if he is gay?

Your words were "It is different", based on the logic that gay men already give and take dick. It's in your post on the following page, so do continue to be a coward.

I feel like the prison atmosphere taints this though. If you get raped and do nothing that is like saying "hey, feel free to also come rape me".

The prison setting changes things, it's not like getting raped outside of prison. ESPECIALLY if you're in prison for a long time, you do need to worry about how others view you, and "dude who takes the rape" isn't a good view. You can surely report it, but then you'e just a snitch. What do they do to snitches?

Originally posted by Raisen
ok. so it appears you aren't fully in line with adam's reasoning of things.

Actually, knowing Adam he would be okay in stabbing someone if it was on the grounds it was stopping an in progress rape/assault.

He's rather reasonable from my experience.

Originally posted by Robtard
Your words were "It is different", based on the logic that gay men already give and take dick. It's in your post on the following page, so do continue to be a coward.

Again Rob, the difference comes in the rape response. I do not have sex with guys. Gay men do. So if they got raped and did what you say you'd do, rape the guy back? To me THAT is what is different from a straight man doing it.

This doesn't mean gay men are less harmed by rape.

Originally posted by Robtard
Actually, knowing Adam he would be okay in stabbing someone if it was on the grounds it was stopping an in progress rape/assault.

He's rather reasonable from my experience.

I just didn't get that impression from his comments but i'd like him to remark on this specifically.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
See? Fire with fire. That is a proportionate response. Not fire with nuclear weapons, because sausage fears.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
Wait... so raping them in revenge is morally superior to killing them in revenge?

Grammy Flash said an eye for an eye leaves everybody blind.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
Wait... so raping them in revenge is morally superior to killing them in revenge?

Apparently because it's an equal act I guess.

Originally posted by socool8520
Apparently because it's an equal act I guess.

Makes you wonder how they'd feel about the death penalty.

Originally posted by Robtard
Actually, knowing Adam he would be okay in stabbing someone if it was on the grounds it was stopping an in progress rape/assault.

He's rather reasonable from my experience.

I already addressed this earlier in the thread. It is legally permissible to use lethal force to stop a rape in progress, and I am entirely fine with that.

However, that is not the scenario presented in the initial post. The original poster asks how one would respond to being sexually assaulted after-the-fact, and presents a series of options.

My point, is that there is an inverse relationship between the fragility of the masculinity of one, and how disproportionately he responds to an event that is found to be emasculating in his eyes or in the eyes of others.

In other words, if you respond to a simple assault with murder, you are not proving how tough you are, you are showing everyone how insecure you are by overcompensating.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
My point, is that there is an inverse relationship between the fragility of the masculinity of one, and how disproportionately he responds to an event that is found to be emasculating in his eyes or in the eyes of others.

In other words, if you respond to a simple assault with murder, you are not proving how tough you are, you are showing everyone how insecure you are by overcompensating.

Cool. I don't disagree that the could be a motivation for some, but it came across as that is the sole motivation for any man who is raped.

Punching somebody is a simple assault. Rape is not.

The psychological damage and fear of a repeated rape could very well be a reason for an escalation of violence.