Originally posted by Kurk
B-team wins.Fisto handled Grievous quite well in TCW
He turned his body side-ways so that he could fight the Jedi on either side of him with two lightsabers each. It took all that the two Jedi had to hold off Grievous' advances.
The Clone Wars: Grievous Attacks!
CW Savage only managed to beat Adi Gallia due to his TK; not his saber technique. He tanked her attacks due to his size, but when facing off against the likes of these males (especially another Zabrak) he's going to fail like he did against Kenobi later on in the Felucia fight. And before anyone says it, Savage only managed to beat Plo Koon due to the latter being distracted in the previous frame.
How is CW Maul (with a single-saber) going to be able to win against 2-3 council members? Are there other instances when a slightly superior opponent (assuming Maul is an 8 and B-teams are 7) was able to win against a duo/trio?
Originally posted by Kurk
CW Savage only managed to beat Adi Gallia due to his TK;
Does he not have his TK in this fight?
Originally posted by Kurk
And before anyone says it, Savage only managed to beat Plo Koon due to the latter being distracted in the previous frame.
No. Plo was already kicked on the floor, and lost to Savage despite having back up.
Originally posted by ChocolateMuesli
savage was also beating ventress, whom plo koon was only equal to twice. there is no argument for plo > savage
Ventress and Obi-Wan together are kind a stalemating them, but eventually they gonna lose in that space, in that situation, and they needed to flee.''
https://youtu.be/n8PEGa3Wq50?t=13m40s
And even then the whole, they were going to lose is more on Maul's Dun-Moch induced victory over Kenobi than Oppress vs Ventress where they were stalemating.
Plo fought evenly with Ventress when he was injured that "stalemate" featured Koon disarming Ventress of one oher blades.
That comparison is getting you nowhere.
Plo>Savage is incredibly easy to argue because we saw them directly fight and in that direct fight it took Plo Koon seconds to pierce's oppress's guard with a lightsaber.
Now I'm eager to hear how people justify using a cheapshot as valid evidence.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
No. Plo was already kicked on the floor,
Unfortunately for Oppress, as their are no clone troopers in the scenario this fight takes place in, that part of the fight isn't applicable here.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
and lost to Savage despite
Originally posted by Darth Thor
having back up.
Then after that, Oppress managed to get his leg cut a few seconds into their exchange.
Fortunately for our Zabrak friend, external interference allowed Oppress to end the fight almost immediately after. Otherwise, I doubt he'd have fared well against someone who only needed a few seconds to directly pierce his guard with a light saber.
Especially not with an injured leg.
Though I'm sure you're about to cry "the injury didn't do anything!" even though Oppress cites it as a reason they can't keep fighting.
Will never get tired of hearing the argument that Savage being shot at, and fighting Plo Koon while being shot at, is not an issue for Savage, and totes isn't something Plo could have capitalised on.
But Plo, a being with precognition, super-reflexes and omnidirectional spacial awareness granted by an infinite energy field? If he has to turn around briefly and say "look out!" - now that is just f*cking unfair. Savage is such a cheapshotting loser for exploiting Plo in his moment of weakness. Savage is clearly just a vulture taking every scrap of advantage he can get, meanwhile Plo being backed up by a squad of laser-gun wielding super soldiers just has the world against him and it's so terribly unfair.