If that's supposed to be Tim Tebow, then he does have a charitable foundation in his name. It deal more with curing disease in children rather than feeding them, and it's hard to say how much he has personally contributed outside of his name. His foundation has donated somewhere around 5 million I believe. Always thought he was a nice enough guy just a shit QB at the pro level.
The other lady, who the hell knows?
It'd be much more practical for atheists to attack other ideologies that will observably deteriorate and collapse a country if too far spread, like say Marxism, Nazism, racial collectivism, totalitarian ideologies, etc. Say what you want about Christianity, but history has proven that societies that are majority Christian are capable of and have historically thrived, with America being a great example of this. Take societies that have embraced Marxism however and they collapse.
It seems like a perverse misemphasis to place the focus of one's criticisms on Christianity when there are plenty of other ideologies much more deserving of criticism in regards to how they're acted out in the world.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
It'd be much more practical for atheists to attack other ideologies that will observably deteriorate and collapse a country if too far spread, like say Marxism, Nazism, racial collectivism, totalitarian ideologies, etc. Say what you want about Christianity, but history has proven that societies that are majority Christian are capable of and have historically thrived, with America being a great example of this. Take societies that have embraced Marxism however and they collapse.It seems like a perverse misemphasis to place the focus of one's criticisms on Christianity when there are plenty of other ideologies much more deserving of criticism in regards to how they're acted out in the world.
Atheists are against those things. What are you talking about? I've never heard an Athiest say that being a racist or Nazi is good. Have you?
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Yeah, not how it works. If you'd asked him for proof to begin with, it'd be a different story, but you went out and said that they didn't, so you're equally responsible for backing up your claim.
Originally posted by socool8520
Atheists are against those things. What are you talking about? I've never heard an Athiest say that being a racist or Nazi is good. Have you?
Originally posted by Emperordmb
No, generally speaking though I've seen atheists emphasize criticism of Christianity over criticisms of other ideologies is the main point I'm making. The atheists who have their priorities straight are the ones who I actually think are concerned with making the world a better place even if I disagree with them on Christianity, the atheists who spend over half of their ideological criticism aimed at western religion to me seem more like they're trying to settle some personal score (such as say being pissed off at their religious family for their upbringing) than actually being motivated by altruism.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I think it only makes sense for an atheist to primarily criticize religion and if they grew up in the West, that religion is almost certainly going to be Christianity.
We've already talked about the fact that I don't think that Christianity is the major reason western civilization has done so well. However, I support religious freedom, but also the freedom to criticize just like all other things I believe are flawed. I would gladly call out Racism and discrimination as well.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Why does that make sense for the primary criticism to be of an ideology that society has been proven capable of surviving if held by a significant majority of its constituents, as opposed to ideologies that when widespread have lead to the point of rotting away whatever societies they get integrated into?
As a Christian I am naturally poised to disagree with atheism, but I certainly give way more of a shit about other points of view that are considerably more disagreeable. I spend most of my time arguing against shit political ideologies, because I don't find atheism remotely threatening in comparison.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yes well why aren't their problems with things that are considerably worse? Again you aren't explaining how this is the appropriate area for emphasis.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
No, generally speaking though I've seen atheists emphasize criticism of Christianity over criticisms of other ideologies is the main point I'm making.
Naturally, because atheism is a stance on religion. It has nothing to do with anything else. If an atheist were to go after something besides religion, it wouldn't be as an atheist, if that makes sense. Just because there isn't an "atheist vs marxist" movement doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of atheists involved with anti-marxist movements.