Kenobi and Skywalker VS Bane and Zannah

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The angle at which Savage strikes makes it extremely unlikely for it to be because of his lightsaber, especially considering the way Dooku flies as if he's just been Force pushed:

1. https://i.imgur.com/kUuSCx7.png
2. https://i.imgur.com/IlDJfAn.png
3. https://i.imgur.com/trUVtkp.png

Dooku seems to be gaining ground in the air, or at least maintaining it, despite the angle Opress striking it being directed quite downwards. It doesn't match up. The main indicator it being telekinesis, though, is the sound effect accompanying it, which is totally different to two lightsabers clashing, but rather is similar to one of the sound effects used for Force push:

a. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDTDCRmYM9Q&t=3m32s
b. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKrUrAvSnOs&t=22m49s
c. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKrUrAvSnOs&t=26m58s
d. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDTDCRmYM9Q&t=0m54s

The sound effect is overlapped with two lightsabers colliding, hence why it's hard to tell, since both happen simultaneously.

But, overall, it makes more sense than Savage doing something like this and never again showing such level of physical strength.

Compared to Savage utilizing telekinesis in conjecture with his Force attacks, which he consistently does throughout the fight.

Perhaps, fair enough. But we later see Savage managing to push Sidious back in a bladelock during their fight with Maul.

While Sidious was holding back, this is still impressive and I feel it's a valid feat of strength regardless, especially in ROTS when Mace gets ahold of Sidious and he's like; "FRACK FRACK FRACK FRACK FRACK".

But yeah, I guess this changes what I included in my Savage VS Kota video. I know there were a bunch of deleted scenes and animatics so it may have been recut since the final edit wasn't that good lol

Would actually really be interested in a fistfight between Anakin and Savage. Savage managed to drive both Kenobi and Skywalker back while debatably amped. I say this because it seems that the more he goes on in a fight, the more dangerous he becomes idk.

I wish we got a one on one duel with Anakin and Savage since one thing I agree with in Antoine's video is that we've never really seen Anakin fight a juggernaut like himself since he's always fought Dooku and Ventress. Bane isn't one of them however.

Oh yeah I heard that Exar Kun was able to put so much power behind his blows that he sent shockwaves out that could be heard/felt miles away. Wouldn't be surprised if Anakin using his full capacity against Dooku shook the entire warship lol.

Jedi 10/10

Bane wasn't even able, to overcame Zannah's defense. Despite him being a declared swordsman, while she was not.
Even a moderate skilled duelist like Sarro, with some BM's amp was able to firmly press her. There is no way, she would be able to survive Anakin's onslaught.
Kenobi was also too good for her, but it would take longer for him to take her.

Bane wouldn't be albo to survive Anakin's onslaught as well. He would also not be able to overcame Kenobi's defense. Not with his saber skill nor lightning. The only chance would be TK attack, but Kenobi's guard have to be lowered for that. And there is a small chance, that either Bane or Zannah would be able to outmanuver Kenobi in a saber fight, like Dooku did in ROTS or TCW.

Not sure if any of Jedi would solo, but as a team, they takes it every single time.

Tbf, Zannah's defense was "virtually impenetrable." She is the worst duelist here, but it doesn't mean she's completely helpless.

She was indeed overhelmed by Sarro. No way that she would survive long against Anakin.

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The angle at which Savage strikes makes it extremely unlikely for it to be because of his lightsaber, especially considering the way Dooku flies as if he's just been Force pushed:

1. https://i.imgur.com/kUuSCx7.png
2. https://i.imgur.com/IlDJfAn.png
3. https://i.imgur.com/trUVtkp.png

Dooku seems to be gaining ground in the air, or at least maintaining it, despite the angle Opress striking it being directed quite downwards. It doesn't match up. The main indicator it being telekinesis, though, is the sound effect accompanying it, which is totally different to two lightsabers clashing, but rather is similar to one of the sound effects used for Force push:

a. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDTDCRmYM9Q&t=3m32s
b. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKrUrAvSnOs&t=22m49s
c. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKrUrAvSnOs&t=26m58s
d. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDTDCRmYM9Q&t=0m54s

The sound effect is overlapped with two lightsabers colliding, hence why it's hard to tell, since both happen simultaneously.

But, overall, it makes more sense than Savage doing something like this and never again showing such level of physical strength.

Compared to Savage utilizing telekinesis in conjecture with his Force attacks, which he consistently does throughout the fight.

Great analysis Ant. This will be of great use in my rebuttal against Quan.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Didn't Orb Bane outlast Raskta Lsu's blows whilst simultaneously countering her allies attacks, which were stated to be far more blows than those that it took for Grievous to break Kenobi's shield wall?

Just food for thought.

Yes, because, being a skilled duelist, he wasn't looking to just swing his lightsaber as fast as possible. He was looking to, and succeeded, in overwhelming Kenobi's defenses with an overwhelming barrage of precisely placed and unpredictable attacks:

each of the twelve strikes per second came from a different angle with different speed and intensity, an unpredictably broken rhythm of slashes, chops, and stabs of which every single one could take Obi-Wan's life.

―Revenge of the Sith

That's good for Grievous, but doesn't mean anything for Bane who lacks anything on par with Kenobi defending himself against the blasterfire of ten thousand droids.

Never mind that a pre-prime Kenobi can scale from the likes of Maul, a tier 8 with decades of training from Sidious(and he received much of that training while sorting sids tier potential), who happens to be one of the deadliest and most skilled sith lords in the mythos.

Why is Rakasta Lu in this conversation?

This is one of those videos that I can’t watch all the way through.

Either solo. Anakin stomps.

Bane>Obi wan

Originally posted by LordOfTheLight
Either solo. Anakin stomps.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
In short, there's a reason why Sidious or the Son can't just telepathically possess Anakin and force him to do their bidding.

Anakin's too strong for them, and he's obviously too strong for Darth ****ing Zannah too.

Nah. That's will power. Even non-sensitive are capable of great will power. That's why Zannah vanquished Bane outward, even though he was stronger with the Force.

Zonakin=Anakin. Dooku didn't lose because of Anakin channeling the dark side, he lost because Anakin improved his lightsabre skills which surprised Dooku. And because Dooku used most of his power to bolster his old body.