Future of the democratic party is.... white guys?

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah, but sexism isn't why she lost either.

Yeah, I quite literally said that.

Originally posted by Robtard
I owe you an apology, I started out too strong, so my bad, DMB. We don't often agree, but you're usually cordial regardless.

And in that spirit I am likewise sorry if I get too aggressive or hostile in some of my posts.

Originally posted by Robtard
Clinton says a lot of stupid things, sexism while I'm sure it played a part in her losing in the form of some votes, isn't why she lost. Just like Obama lost some votes (and I'm sure gained some votes) due to his skin color, but he didn't win just because he was the black guy running. His people ran a great campaign.

Nice, and I'm just reaffirming that. Hilary is the one who deserves the majority of the blame for the loss.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Damn, respect. I consider the humility to apologize for shit to be one of the main virtues of mankind, and if more people were willing to do that the world would be a better place.

And in that spirit I am likewise sorry if I get too aggressive or hostile in some of my posts.

Yeah Obama is actually really damn charismatic.

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Clinton is too, anyone who runs and comes that close to the presidency has charisma, Trump is highly charismatic, it just come out in different ways depending on the person. Her loss was due to multiple factors, some in her control and some not. eg The smear campaign against her was A-class, I can't recall another that matches or surpasses it. Though I suspect the one against Trump in 2020 might, as politics have seemingly upped the shitgame

Originally posted by Surtur
Nice, and I'm just reaffirming that. Hilary is the one who deserves the majority of the blame for the loss.

Your Clinton obsession is always amusing, Surt. I mean that.

Originally posted by Robtard
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Clinton is too, anyone who runs and comes that close to the presidency has charisma, Trump is highly charismatic, it just come out in different ways depending on the person. Her loss was due to multiple factors, some in her control and some not. eg The smear campaign against her was A-class, I can't recall another that matches or surpasses it. Though I suspect the one against Trump in 2020 might, as politics have seemingly upped the shitgame

So wait, you feel the smear campaign during the election was worse for Hilary than Trump?

Originally posted by Robtard
Your Clinton obsession is always amusing, Surt. I mean that.

I feel the same about you and other leftists Trump obsession.

And just to nip the notion of "it's not obsession cuz he's the president!". Nah, it totally is.

Originally posted by Surtur
So wait, you feel the smear campaign during the election was worse for Hilary than Trump?

Absolutely.

Originally posted by Surtur
I feel the same about you and other leftists Trump obsession.

And just to nip the notion of "it's not obsession cuz he's the president!". Nah, it totally is.

Except of course it is a factor, Trump is in power; he can (and has) negatively affected our lives. Clinton can't.

Except no, it's not a factor in obsession. Caring what the president does and obsessing over everything he does are two entirely different things.

That is true, so are you seriously going to whine and try to argue over that?

Whatever you need to tell yourself, I really don't care if you want to ignore facts and reality, Surt. I'm trying to have a cordial exchange with DMB 👆

Originally posted by Robtard
Whatever you need to tell yourself, I really don't care if you want to ignore facts and reality,

Oh the irony.

Surt. I'm trying to have a cordial exchange with DMB 👆

The very first thing you did in this thread was to claim he said something he never said.

Originally posted by Surtur

The very first thing you did in this thread was to claim he said something he never said.

I then apologized for my poor behavior directly too him; he accepted and we moved on cordially with the convo. You seem bent on trying to turn this thread into another warzone. Sorry, look elsewhere.

Originally posted by Robtard
I then apologized for my poor behavior directly too him; he accepted and we moved on cordially with the convo. You seem bent on trying to turn this thread into another warzone. Sorry, look elsewhere.

You claimed I was poisoning the well by pointing out he never said what you said lol.

Explain that. Explain how it is poisoning the well.

You're still attempting to poison the well, Surt... Anyhow, going to wait for DMB to respond and then go from there, you can have the last word with this as I know you like that.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're still attempting to poison the well, Surt... Anyhow, going to wait for DMB to respond and then go from there, you can have the last word with this as I know you like that.

How was pointing out you misrepresented what DMB said poisoning the well? You have yet to explain that. You know you did something wrong, you apologized. So why was I poisoning the well by pointing out your bullshit?

Originally posted by Robtard
Absolutely.

Except of course it is a factor, Trump is in power; he can (and has) negatively affected our lives. Clinton can't.

Exactly, Hillary is irrelevent.

I wish Trump could at least take away the politicans health care so someone who deserves to suffer could for once, but I'm not sure he could really do that..