Originally posted by joesha28That can be interpreted in different ways. Thor didn't defeat the Hulk despite the lightning attacks. Hulk took the lightning like a champ. He's still the avengers powerhouse while Thor is their skilled warrior.
I did not say Thor is the strongest avenger as in if The focus is strength. Hulk is. But overall Power wise, Thor does beat Hulk, which is highlighted in the movie.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That can be interpreted in different ways. Thor didn't defeat the Hulk despite the lightning attacks. Hulk took the lightning like a champ. He's still the avengers powerhouse while Thor is their skilled warrior.
I actually have that fight with me. A friend got it for me. After the hammer shot from Thor, Hulk was dazed. Even Grandmaster was like "What" . After the 1st charged punch, Hulk was pretty dizzy in getting up, it was slow-mo when he was falling from the punch. The Crowd started to root for Thor because He was winning. After that last charge punch from Thor to Hulk that caused megawave, Hulk again woke up pretty slow and it was Thor that was going for him. Hulk was not moving towards Thor but Thor was. If anyone going to watch the movie again pls verify this. Watch that last bit.
And Grandmaster wanted a fight with his champion Hulk winning and Thor dying but when he saw Thor taking his champ on for the ride, he was worried.
Originally posted by joesha28
That was like a newspaper pin up. We did not see the feat onscreen.
Ughh.... A newspaper header saying he stopped an earthquake by shifting a tectonic plate. It was mixed in with a bunch of other newspaper headers of his various deeds. Thus it was an actual occurence. Hence the newspaper recorded it.
It was not some loose metaphor by an ornery general. That being said the 30 megaton figure is actually believable considering thor took the explosion of Sokovia and survived.
Originally posted by joesha28I've seen it once last night and I'll be going again next week. Hulk took the best Thor had to offer and it's anyone's guess how the fight would have concluded. Hulk takes a licking but keeps on ticking. Thor is the skilled warrior while Hulk is the brute powerhouse. This fight did nothing but confirm what I already knew.
I actually have that fight with me. A friend got it for me. After the hammer shot from Thor, Hulk was dazed. Even Grandmaster was like "What" . After the 1st charged punch, Hulk was pretty dizzy in getting up, it was slow-mo when he was falling from the punch. The Crowd started to root for Thor because He was winning. After that last charge punch from Thor to Hulk that caused megawave, Hulk again woke up pretty slow and it was Thor that was going for him. Hulk was not moving towards Thor but Thor was. If anyone going to watch the movie again pls verify this. Watch that last bit.
And Grandmaster wanted a fight with his champion Hulk winning and Thor dying but when he saw Thor taking his champ on for the ride, he was worried.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I've seen it once last night and I'll be going again next week. Hulk took the best Thor had to offer and it's anyone's guess how the fight would have concluded. Hulk takes a licking but keeps on ticking. Thor is the skilled warrior while Hulk is the brute powerhouse. This fight did nothing but confirm what I already knew.
Agreed, it was inconclusive. The one thing I might mention is that Mjolnir was absent, which undoubtedly gives Thor other tactics to use, though it doesn't necessarily change the outcome.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I've seen it once last night and I'll be going again next week. Hulk took the best Thor had to offer and it's anyone's guess how the fight would have concluded. Hulk takes a licking but keeps on ticking. Thor is the skilled warrior while Hulk is the brute powerhouse. This fight did nothing but confirm what I already knew.
So why was the Grandmaster worried?
The guys at Hulk message board are pissed which says alot btw.
The Hulk has been the Grandmasters champion for 2 years. In Sakaar time, that's what, like 5? He even bragged about having a special bond with him. Ironically they were never on screen together but its clear he knew the Hulk well.
Despite knowing the Hulk's combat capabilities probably better than anyone aside from Valkyrie, he was worried, nervous and decided he needed to intervene. Nuff said.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I've seen it once last night and I'll be going again next week. Hulk took the best Thor had to offer and it's anyone's guess how the fight would have concluded. Hulk takes a licking but keeps on ticking. Thor is the skilled warrior while Hulk is the brute powerhouse. This fight did nothing but confirm what I already knew.
Lol, the best? Thor hit him once. If anyone showed impressive durability, it was Thor. Hulk followed his uppercut with a landing punch on Thor's face and he pounded on Thor heavy. Punch after punch including ground and pounds and Thor was completely unharmed.
Tbh, I didn't even think Thor could take such a savage uninterrupted beating from Hulk without a scratch.
As far as I'm concerned, Hulk vs Thor in hand to hand is a stalemate. Hulk is stronger but Thor is far more skilled and dominating in hand to hand when serious. And even when Hulk does get his strength advantage in an ideal situation (Pounding on Thor from above), he is as unlikely to knock out Thor with his fists as Thor is him (Non-Super Saiyan mode).
Originally posted by joesha28
So why was the Grandmaster worried?The guys at Hulk message board are pissed which says alot btw.
I haven't seen the movie yet but good point on the hulk fan reactions.
If what I read was right Thor looked clearly better regardless of the end result of their fight.
That and marvel on twitter seemed to imply Thor was the strongest avenger.
Originally posted by joesha28Thor didn't beat Hulk. Thor hurts Hulk but he never bested him. Hulk is definitively the powerhouse of the team and this is proven by their fight.
I did not say Thor is the strongest avenger as in if The focus is strength. Hulk is. But overall Power wise, Thor does beat Hulk, which is highlighted in the movie.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThor showed impressive damage soak but he was harmed. He just countered. He was clearly hurt by the attacks but wasn't knocked out or defeated.
The Hulk has been the Grandmasters champion for 2 years. In Sakaar time, that's what, like 5? He even bragged about having a special bond with him. Ironically they were never on screen together but its clear he knew the Hulk well.Despite knowing the Hulk's combat capabilities probably better than anyone aside from Valkyrie, he was worried, nervous and decided he needed to intervene. Nuff said.
Lol, the best? Thor hit him once. If anyone showed impressive durability, it was Thor. Hulk followed his uppercut with a landing punch on Thor's face and he pounded on Thor heavy. Punch after punch including ground and pounds and Thor was completely unharmed.
That's how the fights go they don't take realistic damage in sprains, etc. when the fight is over both guys don't have to deal with concussions, etc. realism isn't involved in these universes for the most part.
Tbh, I didn't even think Thor could take such a savage uninterrupted beating from Hulk without a scratch.As far as I'm concerned, Hulk vs Thor in hand to hand is a stalemate. Hulk is stronger but Thor is far more skilled and dominating in hand to hand when serious. And even when Hulk does get his strength advantage in an ideal situation (Pounding on Thor from above), he is as unlikely to knock out Thor with his fists as Thor is him (Non-Super Saiyan mode). [/B]
Just because neither guy was ko'd that doesn't mean they can't be ko'd. Thor in his super saiyan mode didn't defeat the Hulk either. He wasn't ko'd and Thor was truly connected to his powers.
Hulk is the powerhouse of the team while Thor is the skilled warrior. Both brings different pluses to the table here.
Originally posted by joesha28The outcome was in doubt because Tgor was a peer to the Hulk. GM wasn't going to risk this. He's too much of a control freak to allow Thor the chance to defeat him. We can only speculate as to what what happen. We see the fight go back and forth multiple times already.
So why was the Grandmaster worried?The guys at Hulk message board are pissed which says alot btw.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor showed impressive damage soak but he was harmed. He just countered. He was clearly hurt by the attacks but wasn't knocked out or defeated.That's how the fights go they don't take realistic damage in sprains, etc. when the fight is over both guys don't have to deal with concussions, etc. realism isn't involved in these universes for the most part.
He bounced back from everything. He actually bounced back better than Hulk did.
What? Lmao. By that logic no durability feats count and we should ignore evidence of their respective stats. The biggest copout ever. Thor shows
Originally posted by quanchi112
Just because neither guy was ko'd that doesn't mean they can't be ko'd. Thor in his super saiyan mode didn't defeat the Hulk either. He wasn't ko'd and Thor was truly connected to his powers.Hulk is the powerhouse of the team while Thor is the skilled warrior. Both brings different pluses to the table here.
Nah, after this fight, the odds of Hulk knocking Thor out in a battle? Well, we saw what it took, outside interference that completely incapacitates Thor. I.e.
Lol. Ya, Hulk is the power house of the team. That's what the movie intended to portray.