Hela vs. Wonder Woman · Movie Versus Forum

Silent Master Senior Member

Originally posted by h1a8
Full heat energy of a star?
Stars don't emit lots of outward forces.
Plus they needed the star's heat melt the metal, not a force (as in push).
Being burn resistant has no bearing on being stabbed or koed.

You keep ingnoring the giant spaceforge that was designed solely for the purpouse of harnessing and using the star's energy for making weapons.

Silent Master Senior Member

If your argument is that the star would power Superman up, it's rather silly to try and use that as proof that Superman is just as or more durable than Thor. Because star's don't empower Thor. instead you should compare the energy levels they withstood.

Thor was badly injured by a star, while Superman was badly injured by a nuke.

Star > nuke

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by Juk3n
You talk more sense than the other guy. But you're forgetting... Or obscuring intentionally, two things.
Doomsday was reanimated with Human DNA, (possibly why he is susceptible to injury more than superman) and doomsdays adaption abilities took absorbed the knite from the spear and infused the stump that impaled superman.
Personally I don't know how anyone who calls themselves a fan of the genre missed all that. But hey ho.
We know bullets dont hurt superman. We know Helas swords get shattered from
mere M16 rounds.
Screen superman doesnt have a magic weakness because a literal, created by magic being, nick named God killer, hit him point blank with a headbutt wearing a magic tiara and all it did was piss him off. That was after being wrapped in what looks like DCs second most powerful artifact (lasso), which also didnt deter him.

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Doomsday literally took a Nuclear Weapon FAR better than Superman despite being closer....and you're implying Doomsday is LESS durable?

Wait, where did he absorb the Kryptonite? How does that even make sense? Doomsday is Kryptonian, the Kryptonite spear KILLED him....

Actually, Kryptonian's can feel pain when hit by sufficiently powerful bullets as seen in MOS.

If you're referring to the Skurge scene, he attacked her large construct but what does that have to do with their piercing capabilities?

They one-shot Asgardian's who are bullet proof. It impaled a ship that survived the Devil's Anus in Ragnarok, it was one of the Grandmaster's personal craft, so their durability and piercing power are not directly related. It cut through Surtur easily who flicked Hulk away like a bug...

Tbh, based on the above, the idea she couldn't cut him is ridiculous imho.

That's not how the magical vulnerability works and we both know it. Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel punching him is just blunt force. If Wonder Woman uses her sword or Captain Marvel encases his fist in lightning, then it becomes a problem.

HulkIsHulk Senior Member

Rage already replied to you but here's my two cents

Originally posted by Juk3n

Doomsday was reanimated with Human DNA, (possibly why he is susceptible to injury more than superman) and doomsdays adaption abilities took absorbed the knite from the spear and infused the stump that impaled superman.
Personally I don't know how anyone who calls themselves a fan of the genre missed all that. But hey ho.

Doomsgay adapted knite into himself? Where the hell did you get that from?
Then how did he die to it? And why didn't he already absorb it from the kryptonite grenade? That is some serious reaching. In fact, did this version of Doomsday show any adaptive ability? Nope

Originally posted by Juk3n

We know bullets dont hurt superman.

Maybe small arms and assault rifles, but the F22 gunfire in MOS audiblyade him cry out and was clearly bothered by the Gatling guns Batman used on him in BVS. Maybe he becomes truly invulnerable to bullets after the JL boost but as we've seen so far, he isn't absolutely immune to them

Originally posted by Juk3n

Screen superman doesnt have a magic weakness because a literal, created by magic being, nick named God killer, hit him point blank with a headbutt wearing a magic tiara and all it did was piss him off.

I think you're confusing movies with comics here. WW's tiara belonged to her aunt and as far as we know has nothing magical about it.
And Wonder Woman's blows we're magic infused since when?

Originally posted by Juk3n

That was after being wrapped in what looks like DCs second most powerful artifact (lasso), which also didnt deter him.

The lasso only makes people truthful, only hurting them when they lie. It doesn't harm you automatically. Steve Trevor wrapped it around his arm willingly and didn't collapse.

And on Doomsday being cut, there is no evidence that the sword is just an Amazon one. People, it's not the sword she had in her solo movie, because that sword was destroyed by Ares
And when WW killed Ares, she was in some sort of super-mode where she had this aura around her which automatically destroyed projectiles coming at her. She was not in that form in JL

CPT Space Bomb Emperor Doom

The only chance WW has is if this isn't in Asgard (near Asgardians..). Even then majority goes to Hela. Unless WW suddenly turns into a cosmic deity of destruction capable of wielding Twilight and calling forth the doom of an entire planet/realm...then she's got no shot.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Even outside of Asgard, she easily overpowered and bear Thor/Loki and crushed Mjolnir. She also killed all the Valkyrie, and even one was Wonder Woman level in strength or close, capable of wrestling with the Hulk, overpowering Loki etc.

To top it off, Hela, spams deadly weapons with sharp ends and has a healing factor that can allow her to easily withstand getting stabbed by Gugnir. She was designed to utterly stomp Wonder Woman. She'd stomp all of Themyiscara easily, including Ares.

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Hela stomps.