Originally posted by cdtm
In what way?
Lol, serious question: do you truly not realize what he is saying?
He's going to pull the same BS liberals always tend to do. They will whine over the way conservatives react to Muslims. Yet they pull the same BS whenever it's a white guy doing the shooting lol.
It is the SAME story. There is no superior side here because the left responds to white male shooters the same way the right does to Islamic terror. But I guarantee you: they will behave like it's different. It's somehow more right when the left does what they do, and it is somehow more wrong when the right does what they do.
Guaranteed, there will be some variation of "wellllll...it's different because the liberals are correct when we do what we do" lol. With a straight face something like that will be typed.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Indeed you did. Most seemed to be giving condolences, etc. but not our resident dweeb Bash:
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i can tell from reading the comments here that it wasn't a muslim
^^Same guy who throws a fit anytime Islamic terror attacks are mentioned, same guy lol.
Originally posted by Surtur
Lol, serious question: do you truly not realize what he is saying?He's going to pull the same BS liberals always tend to do. They will whine over the way conservatives react to Muslims. Yet they pull the same BS whenever it's a white guy doing the shooting lol.
It is the SAME story. There is no superior side here because the left responds to white male shooters the same way the right does to Islamic terror. But I guarantee you: they will behave like it's different. It's somehow more right when the left does what they do, and it is somehow more wrong when the right does what they do.
Guaranteed, there will be some variation of "wellllll...it's different because the liberals are correct when we do what we do" lol. With a straight face something like that will be typed.
It's not the same story. The initial reaction may be the same or similar enough, but the overall conclusions are not.
Conservatives are especially quick to push for stricter immigration laws, harsher detention and deportation regulations, and travel bans whenever Muslims or Latinos commit severe acts of violence which kill or injure multiple people. The narrative then snowballs into something along the lines of "Not all of them are bad, but most of them are, so let's do what we can to keep as many of them out, just to be sure."
However, the same conservatives insist nothing can be done about the increasing number of mass killing by armed white men. They insist it is solely a mental illness issue, in spite of serious doubts from mental illness experts, yet have made it easier for those who are indeed clinically mentally ill to purchase guns, and are not doing anything to make it any more affordable for people to get the care and treatment they need. At the same time, they have done nothing to make it harder to obtain and modify the types of weapons used in these mass killings, but instead, they want to make it easier. The narrative there is, "Well, he was a lone-wolf, who clearly had to be crazy to do something like this. Nothing we can do about it. Better gun control won't work because of stuff and reasons that don't necessarily make sense, but there you go..."
Where is the consistency?
That lack of consistency from conservative lawmakers is what drives liberals and moderates to react the way they do to both types of tragedies.
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
It's not the same story. The initial reaction may be the same or similar enough, but the overall conclusions are not.Conservatives are especially quick to push for stricter immigration laws, harsher detention and deportation regulations, and travel bans whenever Muslims or Latinos commit severe acts of violence which kill or injure multiple people. The narrative then snowballs into something along the lines of "Not all of them are bad, but most of them are, so let's do what we can to keep as many of them out, just to be sure."
However, the same conservatives insist nothing can be done about the increasing number of mass killing by armed white men. They insist it is solely a mental illness issue, in spite of serious doubts from mental illness experts, yet have made it easier for those who are indeed clinically mentally ill to purchase guns, and are not doing anything to make it any more affordable for people to get the care and treatment they need. At the same time, they have done nothing to make it harder to obtain and modify the types of weapons used in these mass killings, but instead, they want to make it easier. The narrative there is, "Well, he was a lone-wolf, who clearly had to be crazy to do something like this. Nothing we can do about it. Better gun control won't work because of stuff and reasons that don't necessarily make sense, but there you go..."
Where is the consistency?
That lack of consistency from conservative lawmakers is what drives liberals and moderates to react the way they do to both types of tragedies.
And there is a lack of consistency on both sides. Either it's okay to blame a group or it isn't. There is no "you can't blame all muslims" then followed up by "this is republicans fault!".
A choice needs to be made, I do not care which they choose, but a choice needs to be made nonetheless.
Do not push back on blaming an entire group and then turn around and...blame an entire group. It just doesn't fly.
And holy shit, STOP with the mentally ill stuff. It's getting old.
Originally posted by Surtur
*sigh* You and your pals continually mislead people about this. If a person has been deemed as a danger to themselves OR to others they cannot legally purchase a gun.Under the Obama rule(that got repealed), information from the Social Security Administration regarding mental disability benefits would be added to the National Instant Criminal Background Check database for use in firearm background checks.
Even liberal rags like Vox have articles like this:
Why disabilities rights activists like me sided with the NRA on an Obama gun control rule
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
^^^this guy trying to dismiss mental illness in the topic of mass-murder. keep trying to enforce your special rules, squirt.
So at this point you're just a troll. What I'm saying is it's not relevant if you are going to misrepresent it. Which you and others keep doing.
Again: are you just ignorant or are facts for lesser men?