Originally posted by DamborgsonIf you're talking about my post, it doesn't need confirmation from him. It was the entire point of Johns' Infinite Crisis, it undid the knot/reboot in the timestream in 1985.
Abhi, confirm?
Originally posted by TheHulkster
They took elements of pre-crisis and mixed them in. New 52 took some away. Current Superman did associate with the Legion as a teen, but his youth was different from pre- crisis Superboy. So current Superman is basically a different character.
Every story with the Legion was canonized by Lightning saga and Legion of three worlds.
Originally posted by abhilegendYea, it’s all canon, it’s a matter that I don’t consider feats from 50 years to be accurate even if canon. I always thought it was retarded when people do it for Hulk and Thor as well.
Yeah it is. But I'm not comfortable with using pre crisis stories.
But my point remains. That’s all one character.
👆. Hulksters scan actually proves my point.
Inferior equipment means that just because something is incalculable, doesn't mean it's infinite.
Just means your tech isn't as great as you thought it was.
Case in point, trying to use a six ton press to determine the Hulks strength. Of course it's going to fail.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
👆. Hulksters scan actually proves my point.Inferior equipment means that just because something is incalculable, doesn't mean it's infinite.
Just means your tech isn't as great as you thought it was.
Case in point, trying to use a six ton press to determine the Hulks strength. Of course it's going to fail.
What is your bases for declaring Thinker's machine inferior? 70s comics were less sophisticated and didn't go through efforts to be scientifically precise despite the same intentions. The press weighs 6 tons but that has nothing to do with the hydraulic pressure.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Clearly? Based on what, your desire for it to be more?What's the limit of that machine, then? And the point still stands.
You're basing the inferiority of the machines based on your desire for them to be. If it was about the incapability of the machines, they would state that he is beyond the machine's capability to measure. That is not what Thinker says. He is using numeric equations to calculate strength and determines Hulk to be incalculable. Those numbers have nothing to do with the machine's capabilities.
Originally posted by carver9So one scientist say superman is benching the earths weight on a small machine and certain people drool at the mouth while another scientist says hulk while under a 6 ton press strength has no limit, but certain people try and dismiss hulks feat to shield superman??? Supermans feat was given numbers while hulks was given........ Well.... No limit....Hulk is stronger by feats.
Basically. I'm sure the machine Superman was benching earth weights on didn't weigh anywhere close to the weight of Earth.
Somehow Hulk struggling with 6 tons weight is more impressive than Superman benching entire Earth's weight because "Hulk's strength was not given any number".
Guess what, neither was Superman.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XSDNzaCB-aM/Uw15JIPF_MI/AAAAAAAAxEg/8Ti9dGm2uUw/s1600/p13_1.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-o2qmwTap-Vw/Uw15N6Z3LCI/AAAAAAAAxFw/JSFgWFVgpg8/s1600/p13_2.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1cm1bEn8E04/Uw15OB01FCI/AAAAAAAAxGA/Pvbdg3RyN7Q/s1600/p13_3.jpg
The only reason he even strained was because he was weakened after five days away from sun and this was lower level stuff for him.
So Hulk strains at 6 tons. Superman strains at 6 sextillion tons while weakened.
Somehow that makes Superman weaker because Samson said so.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
You're basing the inferiority of the machines based on your desire for them to be. If it was about the incapability of the machines, they would state that he is beyond the machine's capability to measure. That is not what Thinker says. He is using numeric equations to calculate strength and determines Hulk to be incalculable. Those numbers have nothing to do with the machine's capabilities.
Then what does "incalculable" mean if it has nothing to do the instruments capabilities?
Does it mean "infinite"?
