No that’s not what I’m saying, I’m saying the notion that there were 18 school shootings is a completely disingenuous and manipulative statistic used to make the problem sound worse than it actually is, and if you call someone out for literally blowing it out of proportion, they respond “oh no you don’t care about the kids!”
"In Florida, it's easier to buy an assault rifle than it is to obtain cold medicine"
^^Literally was tweeted by CBS News yesterday.
Originally posted by Surtur
[b]"In Florida, it's easier to buy an assault rifle than it is to obtain cold medicine"^^Literally was tweeted by CBS News yesterday.
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Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Absolutely.
But once again, that scenario only applies if the person is in the same room as the gun vault when they realise their house is being broken into.What about having a home alarm security system installed in the first place?
Bars on the windows?
A metal security gate?
Another upside is that your insurance premiums go down, the more your secure your house.Everyone who constantly argues, "It's my God dam given right to protect my family & home" kinda gives you the impression they walk around the house with gun holstered & a loaded shotgun leaning against the front door.
What if you live in rural America where none of your suggestions make much sense?
Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm fairly sure that the number of instances where people break into someone's house far outnumber the times a kid shot themselves or a sibling with their parents gun.
The point I'm trying to make is that home break-ins happens all over the world, regardless of the extent of gun control laws.
A thief (not a rapist or homicidal killer or enraged jealous ex) is only interested in stealing your property. They're not necessarily going to alleviate their crime to rape or murder & face a harsher jail sentence if they can simply get away with stealing.
Originally posted by Surtur
[b]"In Florida, it's easier to buy an assault rifle than it is to obtain cold medicine"^^Literally was tweeted by CBS News yesterday.
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Originally posted by snowdragon
How does this work for folks that live in the country with neighbors a mile away and 30 minutes from a town?
A woman living by herself out in the country who gets attacked by a wandering rapist seems like a somewhat unlikely situation. Though clearly it must be a common enough scenario to outweight dozens of school shootings a year. In any case if she were truly alone its unlikely the rapist would kick the door down, he'd probably have all the time in the world to wait for the right opportunity. If we do play out the scenario to the letter however, the safest thing for her to do would still be to try and get to her car instead of trying to fight back.
Originally posted by Kurk
Lol that's called being a cuck 100% max. I refuse to ever live in a state where castle-doctrine isn't implemented. What's the point of buying a house if you have no control over it?Anyway what if this person lives out in the country where it takes the police 20 minutes to respond? She's ****ed. This is why gun laws (at least anything other than background checks) should be left to state and local governments as ever-body lives under different circumstances.
Yeah, I'm sure the murderer cares how alpha you are. 😬 Your life is more precious than any stupid house or possession.
Like I said, every other country in the world survives like this and we don't have an epidemic of roving murderers attacking women in cabins to worry about.
Originally posted by snowdragon
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Originally posted by Esau Cairn
The point I'm trying to make is that home break-ins happens all over the world, regardless of the extent of gun control laws.A thief (not a rapist or homicidal killer or enraged jealous ex) is only interested in stealing your property. They're not necessarily going to alleviate their crime to rape or murder & face a harsher jail sentence if they can simply get away with stealing.
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
So barring your windows & installing security doors don't make sense in America...much less rural America?
It's not practical in any sense, costs more money then having a gun. Depending on your location the response time for police would never make it in time........ie 10-45 minutes depending on the drive.
Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Shouldn't firearms be legally stored in a gun vault?Because your scenario kinda suggests the middle aged woman keeps a loaded gun on her bedside table or sleeps with one under her pillow...
The possibilities of her grand kids finding the loaded firearm & shooting themselves or their siblings is a more tangible fact than a dude breaking into her house.
In the imagination of conservatives, having a firearm turns them all into John Rambo.
Originally posted by Silent Master
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LULZ, that is a piece of shit comparison.
I remember when "ephedrine" was an otc drug that the govt put regulations on to keep people from od'ing at raves and also using it to create crystal meth with.
The headline should have started with "Here is what happens when the Govt puts controls on OTC cold medicines." Comparing it to purchasing a gun is a fail.
Originally posted by snowdragon
LULZ, that is a piece of shit comparison.I remember when "ephedrine" was an otc drug that the govt put regulations on to keep people from od'ing at raves and also using it to create crystal meth with.
The headline should have started with "Here is what happens when the Govt puts controls on OTC cold medicines." Comparing it to purchasing a gun is a fail.
Lol, it's all they have.
Originally posted by NephthysHoly hell and people call me a cuck 😂 .
A woman living by herself out in the country who gets attacked by a wandering rapist seems like a somewhat unlikely situation. Though clearly it must be a common enough scenario to outweight dozens of school shootings a year. In any case if she were truly alone its unlikely the rapist would kick the door down, he'd probably have all the time in the world to wait for the right opportunity. If we do play out the scenario to the letter however, the safest thing for her to do would still be to try and get to her car instead of trying to fight back.Yeah, I'm sure the murderer cares how alpha you are. 😬 Your life is more precious than any stupid house or possession.
Like I said, every other country in the world survives like this and we don't have an epidemic of roving murderers attacking women in cabins to worry about.
I tend to agree that attacking/killing people over material possessions is unnecessary for the most part, but exceptions can be made:
A. Not all material possessions are created equal. People have sentimental attachments to things that insurance can't replace. If for example, some vandal breaks into my garage and tries to steal my rare, expensive, classic car I'm not going to hide inside and wait for the police while this person continues to damage something that cannot be fixed or replaced—and even it were so would cause my premiums to skyrocket if a claim was made. I will hold them at gun-point (state-law dependent) or at the very least remove them physically.
B. What if you have dependents in your household (i.e children, elderly parents) who would physically be unable to retreat with you? In this case guns will at least be drawn
On a side note, I will determine what is worth risking life over, not the state or yourself 🙂
Every other part of the world, really? Seems like quite the generalization.
Originally posted by Esau CairnCrook steals my 5 year-old laptop: proceeds to steal sensitive data or at least exposes it: now I have a cyber-issue on my hands: I make a claim for a new laptop and my premiums go up. A win win, yes 🙂
I'm saying shit happens.
Deal with itThat's why you take out insurance policies on home contents.
They steal your 5 year old laptop...
Guess what?
You get a brand new upgrade for free.