Originally posted by Surtur
Query: are they the "hardcore" type that call Trump Hitler and a fascist and all that?
They definitely dislike Trump, don't recall them calling him Hitler.
I meant more they're just very very liberal people, and they would prefer Pence because they think it'd just be like Bush again which compared to Trump isn't too bad for them.
Originally posted by BackFire
They definitely dislike Trump, don't recall them calling him Hitler.I meant more they're just very very liberal people, and they would prefer Pence because they think it'd just be like Bush again which compared to Trump isn't too bad for them.
Do you believe with Pence it would be like Bush again?
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Here's what I don't get about the Dems who are desperately hoping Trump gets impeached... do you really want Pence?
Sorry, I don't buy the "Fear Pence" angle to shut don't anti-trump people. If Trump were to be removed it would be in a year or more, meaning we'd have maybe two years of Pence. So what? He'd likely not win in 2020 due to being a whack-religious Conservative and the stain Trump would have left on the party would be huge.
Originally posted by Surtur
Do you believe with Pence it would be like Bush again?
I think he'd be more like Bush than Trump. But I also think he'd be more competant at actually getting the republican agenda through. Trump seems too chaotic and self defeating to get much done. Like the most help he can offer congress with taxes and other big pieces of legislation is to just shut up and leave it to them. Pence would be able to rally conservatives because they like/respect Pence. Which is untrue for many of them when it comes to Trump. So in that respect I think Pence would be worse. However, I also think Pence is far less likely to trigger an international incident or engage in an avoidable war than Trump.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Do you mean liberal or leftist? There's quite a few people on the left who are illiberal.
I dunno. They're to the left on many social and economic issues.
Originally posted by socool8520
Some of his beliefs seem more harsh than Trump's. I don't see how they would prefer him.
A lot of them just don't like how Trump acts as a human being. It's a visceral thing. Pence acts like a regular adult human where as Trump usually is acting like a spazzy 9 year old boy who didn't get dessert.
Originally posted by BackFire
A lot of them just don't like how Trump acts as a human being. It's a visceral thing. Pence acts like a regular adult human where as Trump usually is acting like a spazzy 9 year old boy who didn't get dessert.
Lol, but he doesn't act like that according to some on the left. Remember his comments about being alone with women who aren't his wife? How dare he.
Originally posted by Surtur
Lol, but he doesn't act like that according to some on the left. Remember his comments about being alone with women who aren't his wife? How dare he.
Yes he's a religious weirdo who's probably very deep in the closet and jerks off crying to gay porn. But in public he acts pretty normal religious weirdo.
Originally posted by BackFire
A lot of them just don't like how Trump acts as a human being. It's a visceral thing. Pence acts like a regular adult human where as Trump usually is acting like a spazzy 9 year old boy who didn't get dessert.
I get that, but I will take obnoxious over insane policies personally. Although I will retract that if Trump is proven to be a sexual predator. Also, I would be open to the idea if Pence could be convinced to weaken his stances on certain issues.
Originally posted by BackFire
Yes he's a religious weirdo who's probably very deep in the closet and jerks off crying to gay porn. But in public he acts pretty normal religious weirdo.
IMO I think for them it will be that Pence is an okay guy as long as Trump is in power. But if Pence were to become presidency I get the feeling sudden;y he'd be a terrible person, etc.