Sex scandals are we forgetting context?

The casting coach was once considered a right of passage for starlets and perhaps young male stars also.

I don't doubt this is also true in other walks of life, where people have much to gain, they sell their sexuality. To a point, it's what attractive people have often traded on consciously.

Whilst clearly an abhorrent activity, with historical sexual abuse in Hollywood are we forgetting times and social norms have changed?

Everyone has a price, posssibly?

Etc?

Are all peons chattel?

When they stop being peons might the ex chattel indulge?

I don't really understand your overall point. You made a new thread for it though, so it must be somewhat important. Would you be able to clarify?

Originally posted by Scribble
I don't really understand your overall point. You made a new thread for it though, so it must be somewhat important. Would you be able to clarify?

Time/Society/The nature of people/attributing standards of today to actions of the past/how peoples positions change how they perceive their own reality etc.

How far back do we have to go before we stop applying modern standards of decency, though? Surely assault is assault, even outside of context. Just because "noncing was standard back in the '70s" doesn't mean those nonces shouldn't have to face their crimes. It's not like social standards of the time have any effect on the victims and their lives.

Originally posted by Scribble
How far back do we have to go before we stop applying modern standards of decency, though? Surely assault is assault, even outside of context. Just because "noncing was standard back in the '70s" doesn't mean those nonces shouldn't have to face their crimes. It's not like social standards of the time have any effect on the victims and their lives.

Well that's the question, isn't it. You clearly feel the morals of today should be attributed to the past when perhaps people did not see things in the same way. I don't agree or disagree at this point.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Well that's the question, isn't it. You clearly feel the morals of today should be attributed to the past when perhaps people did not see things in the same way. I don't agree or disagree at this point.

"I just got raped, but hey, it is the 1960s!"

It's irrelevant though. What was acceptable in the past doesn't change what's unacceptable now.

Originally posted by socool8520
It's irrelevant though. What was acceptable in the past doesn't change what's unacceptable now.

Really? Interesting.

Well, slavery was acceptable in the past but it clearly isn't now. This would be one of those times when change was needed or made things better. Same with the treatment of women. It is a good change that assaulting women is unacceptable, or at least much more so than in the past.

Btw, I know a fair bit about film history, and your description of the casting couch is kind of off. Young male and female actors had no idea that they would be forced to have sex with someone as the final stage of becoming a 'star', and most went along with it through naivety. It wasn't a rite of passage, it was institutionalised abuse, even then.

Originally posted by socool8520
It is a good change that assaulting women is unacceptable

i don't believe it was acceptable. it was just acceptable practice to casually dismiss all accusations based on 'what she was wearing', her background, locker room talk, her past intimate relationships, etc. as a means of sliming her character and generally implying that she really did want it.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i don't believe it was acceptable. it was just acceptable practice to casually dismiss all accusations based on 'what she was wearing', her background, locker room talk, her past intimate relationships, etc. as a means of sliming her character and generally implying that she really did want it.

Right, that's I said or at least more unacceptable due to the reasons you have stated.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
The casting coach was once considered a right of passage for starlets and perhaps young male stars also.

I don't doubt this is also true in other walks of life, where people have much to gain, they sell their sexuality. To a point, it's what attractive people have often traded on consciously.

Whilst clearly an abhorrent activity, with historical sexual abuse in Hollywood are we forgetting times and social norms have changed?

Everyone has a price, posssibly?

Etc?

Are all peons chattel?

When they stop being peons might the ex chattel indulge?

I'd gladly serve my ass and balls up to a disgusting rich old guy if it meant I would get put in a movie that netted me $2 million with the options to network with his other pervs and open doors to other ways to make more of that kind of money. Do my time in the butt-bashing for a few years and graduate.

Dude...not to say it's okay to abuse people and take advantage of them but I'm a dirty dirty whore who would gladly do tricks for that amount of money.

Need me to make monkey sounds to get off? Fine. Need me to helicopter my dick while you lick my feet? No problem.

That's a shit-ton of money. 😐

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'd gladly serve my ass and balls up to a disgusting rich old guy if it meant I would get put in a movie that netted me $2 million with the options to network with his other pervs and open doors to other ways to make more of that kind of money. Do my time in the butt-bashing for a few years and graduate.

Dude...not to say it's okay to abuse people and take advantage of them but I'm a dirty dirty whore who would gladly do tricks for that amount of money.

Need me to make monkey sounds to get off? Fine. Need me to helicopter my dick while you lick my feet? No problem.

That's a shit-ton of money. 😐

I'd never do it because ain't nobody going near my butt. Nobody. Not ever. No.

Hmmm... maybe... just maybe... it's not a good idea for society to treat sex as some casual transactional thing.

This THREAD is NOTHING but Stevie trying to "RATIONALIZE"
how its OK for One Side to Act like Sex Pervs while it is NOT Ok for Others to do the same.

aka... its ok for LEFTYWOOD to Rape and Molest because..."Fame/Politics".

Originally posted by socool8520
Well, slavery was acceptable in the past but it clearly isn't now. This would be one of those times when change was needed or made things better. Same with the treatment of women. It is a good change that assaulting women is unacceptable, or at least much more so than in the past.

Not in the west true. But in the middle east, it's the norm.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'd gladly serve my ass and balls up to a disgusting rich old guy if it meant I would get put in a movie that netted me $2 million with the options to network with his other pervs and open doors to other ways to make more of that kind of money. Do my time in the butt-bashing for a few years and graduate.

Dude...not to say it's okay to abuse people and take advantage of them but I'm a dirty dirty whore who would gladly do tricks for that amount of money.

Need me to make monkey sounds to get off? Fine. Need me to helicopter my dick while you lick my feet? No problem.

That's a shit-ton of money. 😐

If you're willing to do that much for 2 mil, i wonder what you'll do for a klondite bar.

Okay, and I think we agree that there attachment to outdated and disgusting views on women is not acceptable right? Only strengthens my original point.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'd gladly serve my ass and balls up to a disgusting rich old guy if it meant I would get put in a movie that netted me $2 million with the options to network with his other pervs and open doors to other ways to make more of that kind of money. Do my time in the butt-bashing for a few years and graduate.

Dude...not to say it's okay to abuse people and take advantage of them but I'm a dirty dirty whore who would gladly do tricks for that amount of money.

Need me to make monkey sounds to get off? Fine. Need me to helicopter my dick while you lick my feet? No problem.

That's a shit-ton of money. 😐

Bingo as Rob would say. Sometimes, these "sexual assaults" may have been a transaction perhaps even a predatory one to achieve their aims from a now aggrieved party. Who knows? I'm just not sure everything is always as cut and dried as we are led to believe and that comes from a guy who is a feminist in the sense he believes in equality of opportunity for the sexes.

For instance Raisen offered me 400K Sterling to **** his pussy ass, I don't mind getting shit on my dick for 400K, I just don't think he actually has the money.