What Killed KMC?

I voted that it all went to hell because of that Wollfmyth cvnt. What gives him the nerve to walk upon this sacred land?

Originally posted by ILS
The Devil of Hell's Kitchen, that's what.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No it's not, I'm a ghost.

And you should stay dead

Just wanted to say, I honestly feel that Ant's Anakin/Gillard tier system wank completely killed what little debate was left.

And is is a bad thing if Anakin is now ranked by most people where he should be ranked? All the facts point to him being on Yoda's level by RotS. What's the point in denying them? How did that kill anything?

I'm saying that these tiers being used as the be all end all made the placements even more fixed then they already were, and, as a result, made debating characters on different tiers pointless killing a large part of debate on the forum given a lot of the debate remaining was based around PT era characters.

Your attempt to standardize things is one of the reasons you're on the poll.

If facts make you not want to debate, sounds more like a personal problem than a problem with anyone else.

Anyway, the reason this place is dead is because everything from Star Wars has been ****ing awful and boring since SWTOR and the Disney take over. Any new content has been suspect, ala TFA, or involving characters we already know. This is of course ignoring Rebels, in which everyone introduced is terrible. This coupled with how miserable even speaking to half the people here can be would kill just about any forum, let alone a small one like this.

Only one of them? Come, don't be afraid - no point in hiding anything. I want to hear the reasons for this hatred I find so appetizing.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
If facts make you not want to debate, sounds more like a personal problem than a problem with anyone else.

The thing is, they're not fact. Gillard saying T9 is the highest tier and swordsman on that level are all equal doesn't make it so. If that were the case then no character could be a superior saber combatant to the likes of RotS Sidious or RotS Yoda which doesn't make sense given the mechanics of the Force. A more powerful individual with better augmentation but equal skill should logically be above them.

There's also the attempt by those who wanked the system to have it both ways. Sometimes they tried to claim it related to overall ability as a saber combatant and other times they tried to claim it was only in regards to technical skill. Whatever worked best for their wank at the time.

It was never stated to be restricted to saber combat at all, so I agree that claiming it's only in regards to technical skill is retarded.

Your attempt to hang the blame for KMC's lack of activity on an argument you don't like is cute, though.

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It's stated to be gauge how two combatants would fare in a fight.

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Originally posted by NewGuy01
It was never stated to be restricted to saber combat at all, so I agree that claiming it's only in regards to technical skill is retarded.

Your attempt to hang the blame for KMC's lack of activity on an argument you don't like is cute, though.

I think it killed a lot of the debate regarding highly used characters like Dooku, Mace, Maul, Obi Wan, etc.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
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It's stated to be gauge how two combatants would fare in a fight.

Key word there being "gauge."

Hence why it's a tier system and not "Anakin is 9.45254, etc."

The tier system has room for movement, hence why Mace can slide between a high 8 and a 9, TPM Kenobi from a 6 or 7, etc.

Since, you know, characters aren't static and can improve based on conditions - particularly via dark-side usage.

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I think it killed a lot of the debate regarding highly used characters like Dooku, Mace, Maul, Obi Wan, etc.

Mace is the factual superior to Dooku, Maul, or Obi-Wan.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
As people are still posting here. KMC, is by definition, not dead.
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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Mace is the factual superior to Dooku, Maul, or Obi-Wan.

We disagree on this.

There's nothing to disagree about.

Lucas' word is factually absolute.