Originally posted by Flyattractorthat's the problem Fly, when we don't talk politics you are an amicable chap. I do think it's all an act because you account only became this extreme recently after your ban on Hero chat.
[b]You know I could be jerk and leave you all alone in that Airport Terminal by yourself. All Bored and all. [/B]
Originally posted by dadudemon
I destroyed this talking point already in this thread. 🙂
Nah. The only thing you destroyed was your own creditability. But whatever keeps the boogeyman going so you don't have to admit you were wrong. 😆
But this is exactly what doomsday cultists love to do. They will never admit they were wrong. Just that they had the wrong date and the end will surely come with their next prediction. Have fun drinking that Kool-Aid. Hahahaha!!! Net Neutrality is gone.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Nah. The only thing you destroyed was your own creditability. But whatever keeps the boogeyman going so you don't have to admit you were wrong. 😆
Thousands of experts disagree, though. A majority of Republicans. And a majority of Democrats.
It's like..the only people supporting are large ISPs and large ISPs that offer cable TV services. As though..there's..some...sort....of conflict of interest.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
But this is exactly what doomsday cultists love to do. They will never admit they were wrong. Just that they had the wrong date and the end will surely come with their next prediction. Have fun drinking that Kool-Aid. Hahahaha!!! Net Neutrality is gone.
Remember that one time when AT&T rolled out their new plans with effective dates on the day of the rescinding of the Net Neutrality rules?
I remember. I posted about it in this thread, too. estahuh
Can't blame them: they want to make as much money as possible.
Shame we all died from repealing Net Neutrality. Otherwise, we might get to enjoy all this faster internet speed. HAHA
Yes, this was just yet another example of snowflakes flippin' out over nothing & acting like the sky was falling because of it. My internet speed hasn't changed one bit since this was first announced and I'm totally fine with it.
I must say though that I'm totally against 5G technology. It's dangerous. Getting even faster internet speed than I already have (which is already pretty damn fast) is totally not worth it if it also puts my health at risk.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Shame we all died from repealing Net Neutrality. Otherwise, we might get to enjoy all this faster internet speed. HAHA
This talking point, again? Here, here's your response copied and pasted because you didn't learn your lesson, last time:
Originally posted by dadudemon
Why aren't you mentioning multiple facts that directly contradict the point you're making? Brace yourself, I'm about to destroy you again:1. There is no statistical significance for the increase in fixed broadband speeds. since the loss of net neutrality, June. I want back to Jul '16, 25 one datapoints/months (and my p-value was .05).
FYI, the t-value that comes out is -0.001628 and P is less than .05. It has to be greater than .05 to reject the null hypothesis.
If you don't believe me, you can use an online calculator.
Here's the entire data set so you can just copy and paste:
48.83,50.22,50.81,53.65,55.31,56.70,59.26,61.52,62.78,64.23,68.35,69.47,70.75,72.71,74.68,74.99,75.94,76.36,82.21,84.66,88.19,91.46,92.66,93.98,96.91
And here is a calculator you can use to get your mean, standard deviation, etc.:
http://www.alcula.com/calculators/statistics/dispersion/And here is the t-value calculator (used one-tailed):
https://www.socscistatistics.com/tests/tsinglesample/Default2.aspx
I had to use the wayback machine to go back to Jul '16:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170812155126/http://www.speedtest.net/global-index/united-states
This next part is very important: This point alone makes you wrong.
2. Large speed increases occurred when net neutrality was explicitly enforced. Both as raw MBps and as a percentage against the world average.
3. [b]Mobile speeds have significantly dropped after net neutrality was lost.
4. Networking infrastructure projects, which would have contributed to the increase in broadband speeds, would have been funded, started, and nearly completed during the net neutrality days. The increases in broadband speeds seen in the last two months would have been from the net neutrality era, not after it was repealed. So you're celebrating net neutrality-era wins by pointing out fixed broadband speed jumps.
Now, look, I've shown my work, hidden nothing about how I did the math, and pointed out the direct and overt problems with your point. You cannot be any more wrong than this. There's no guess work. No opinions. The math clearly shows you as wrong. [/B]
Oh ho ho ho, I caught that author being dishonest.
Fixed Broadband speeds increased, yes. That's physical wires, not wireless. With multiple infrastructure build-out projects being started back during the net neutrality days, of course wired internet would still continue to increase in speed.
But in a non-net-neutral world, what you'd see is a stagnation where most of the money is spent for internet access and use. And what is the most commonly used form of internet by far since 2014? Mobile devices.
Guess what the speeds are before and after net neutrality on mobile device networks? Almost 0 change between those two dates.
And guess why they selected June 2018 instead of the most recent data in May 2018? Because speeds dropped to 118Mbps for fixed broadband. Exactly what you'd expect in an noncompetitive market.
That's two very dishonest tactics from the author of that article.
Let's recap:
1. Author lied about true internet speeds and didn't state that the mobile data speeds stagnated.
2. The author used cherry picked data to support their position and didn't point out that speeds actually dropped for fixed internet speeds over the past year.
Let's take a wild guess at the author's interest in lying like this...an ISP shill, most likely.