Dr. Doom Vs Darkseid Prep Battle

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The source is a universal force if am not mistaken!

The Beyonders operate on an Omniversal scale!

That automatically puts Doom way above Darkseid's intelligence.

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Doom is > Thanos intelligence wise.

Thanos is above Darkseid regarding planning.

Darkseid has been defeated countless times by the JL. Whilst Thanos has always obtained what he wants, and is defeated mainly because of his will.

When brains is concerned Dr. Doom is above Darkseid and Thanos.

This is a known thing. It's not a surprise that Dr. Doom is the counterpart of Reed Richards.

The Source is Multiversal actually. The source holds all knowledge, and sees all. Yet Darkseid was able to hide his plans from it.

Also, stop saying Thanos failures are Darkseids. That makes sense.

Further more, Darkseid is not a simple plan kind of guy, he is the long picture guy.

Darkseid has on multiple times allowed himself to bbe defeated just to continue his long end game.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The source is a universal force if am not mistaken!

The Beyonders operate on an Omniversal scale!

That automatically puts Doom way above Darkseid's intelligence.

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Doom is > Thanos intelligence wise.

Thanos is above Darkseid regarding planning.

Darkseid has been defeated countless times by the JL. Whilst Thanos has always obtained what he wants, and is defeated mainly because of his will.

When brains is concerned Dr. Doom is above Darkseid and Thanos.

This is a known thing. It's not a surprise that Dr. Doom is the counterpart of Reed Richards.

Beating characters with their weakness doesn't automatically put doom above darkseid.

Opinion presented as fact (here comes the ABC logic).

Opinion presented as fact (and there's the ABC logic).

Strawman argument mixed with dragging the conversation into left field so as to avoid Doom's numerous losses being brought up.

Opinion presented as fact.

Two can actually play at that game. Doom has gotten chumped by Reed more often than not and Reed himself has admitted that Tony Stark is smarter than him. Oh, and black panther has outsmarted Reed and has also outsmarted doom (twice). We both know that Darkseid is superior to T'challa, so I guess darkseid is massively above doom.

It's also funny that you argue for doom while scans of his humiliating loss at the hands of phucking ant man are being interspersed throughout the page.

When did Reed say Tony was smarter than him?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Literally facephucked with a tree lol.

Don't make me bring up the stairs.

Originally posted by deathslash
darkseid is multiversal and it was made explicitly clear that the beyonders were more powerful than everyone else, but weren't immune to time travel shenanigans.

Beating characters with their weakness doesn't automatically put doom above darkseid.

Opinion presented as fact (here comes the ABC logic).

Opinion presented as fact (and there's the ABC logic).

Strawman argument mixed with dragging the conversation into left field so as to avoid Doom's numerous losses being brought up.

Opinion presented as fact.

Two can actually play at that game. Doom has gotten chumped by Reed more often than not and Reed himself has admitted that Tony Stark is smarter than him. Oh, and black panther has outsmarted Reed and has also outsmarted doom (twice). We both know that Darkseid is superior to T'challa, so I guess darkseid is massively above doom.

It's also funny that you argue for doom while scans of his humiliating loss at the hands of phucking ant man are being interspersed throughout the page.

When did Reed said Stark was smarter!!!!!!????????????

Darkseid is one of the most ineffective leaders in comics!

Doom > Thanos > Darkseid.

Simple and easy comparison!

Originally posted by Stoic
Don't make me bring up the stairs.

A: avatar 😉
B: it was a prep battle, so directly related to this thread 🙂

I believe deathslash is referring to this scene:

http://i.imgur.com/0AnGiL2.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I believe deathslash is referring to this scene:

http://i.imgur.com/0AnGiL2.jpg

Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, I figured he was talking about a time when Reed didn't say Tony was smarter than him. 👆

Lol.

I think deathslash confuses the ability to build up thing with being smart.....

Btw, Stoic, this is the scan that is often missing when people show the stairs scene with DS:

DS wins.

Doom is just a poor mans Thanos

Doom. Not even close.

Originally posted by deathslash
darkseid is multiversal and it was made explicitly clear that the beyonders were more powerful than everyone else, but weren't immune to time travel shenanigans.

Beating characters with their weakness doesn't automatically put doom above darkseid.

Opinion presented as fact (here comes the ABC logic).

Opinion presented as fact (and there's the ABC logic).

Strawman argument mixed with dragging the conversation into left field so as to avoid Doom's numerous losses being brought up.

Opinion presented as fact.

Two can actually play at that game. Doom has gotten chumped by Reed more often than not and Reed himself has admitted that Tony Stark is smarter than him. Oh, and black panther has outsmarted Reed and has also outsmarted doom (twice). We both know that Darkseid is superior to T'challa, so I guess darkseid is massively above doom.

It's also funny that you argue for doom while scans of his humiliating loss at the hands of phucking ant man are being interspersed throughout the page.

One question, If Darkseid is a multiversal entity,
why then did he not go in and beat Imperiex
all by himself? Wait I get it, that was a clone
right?

Originally posted by Stoic
One question, If Darkseid is a multiversal entity,
why then did he not go in and beat Imperiex
all by himself? Wait I get it, that was a clone
right?

Doom wins. Thanos is the best though. Undeniable at this point.

Originally posted by deathslash
..... it's been explicitly stated that the new gods are multiversal. On more than one occasion too. Why do something yourself when you can have your enemies weaken their defenses by throwing themselves at it?a

First off, we need a judgement on what exactly multiversal
means. I have yet to see Orion juggle universes like let's
say a multiversal abstract would be able to. Could the word
have an entirely different meaning in DC than it has in let's say
Marvel? I mean where is the proof? I could understand if you said
solar system level being, but even universal would be like placing
them on a CCU's level, without ever seeing them perform those
types of feats.

Aside from that, this isn't really a power for power thread, but more
along the lines of who has the more brilliant mind.

Imperiex was a being who was responsible for the creation of the main DCU.

Stopping him would have meant no DCU.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Imperiex was a being who was responsible for the creation of the main DCU.

Stopping him would have meant no DCU.

But we still ave yet to see him juggle universes , or do anything
that would allow for us to believe that he was a multiversal entity.
What we know for certain is that he was meant to be rival Galactus
in power, which is a far cry from being multiversal. We need proof.

Originally posted by Stoic
But we still ave yet to see him juggle universes , or do anything
that would allow for us to believe that he was a multiversal entity.
What we know for certain is that he was meant to be rival Galactus
in power, which is a far cry from being multiversal. We need proof.

Yah, but what I'm saying is,plot devices meant that Imperiex had to be BFRd to the beginning of the universe... because he WAS the spark that created the universe. It's circular.

Originally posted by deathslash
..... it's been explicitly stated that the new gods are multiversal. On more than one occasion too. Why do something yourself when you can have your enemies weaken their defenses by throwing themselves at it?a

So there is only one Darkseid in the entire DC Multiverse?

You are wrong. Darkseid is Universal.