Trump recognizes Jerusalem as capital of Israel

Hmmm, I suspect the likely coming bloodshed will be spun as a "Look how Trump exposed the savages!" win for Trump. As you're pretty much implying that already, Surt.

I wonder what level of consolation that will be to the loved ones of the innocent victims.

Originally posted by Robtard
Hmmm, I suspect the likely coming bloodshed will be spun as a "Look how Trump exposed the savages!" win for Trump. As you're pretty much implying that already, Surt.

I wonder what level of consolation that will be to the loved ones of the innocent victims.

If a person commits murder over this, are they a piece of shit?

Well, yes. Murder = bad/wrong

Just be sure to tell that to families of the innocent victimes though, if shit goes down as expected. "Trump exposed those murderous pieces of shit savages though".

Originally posted by Robtard
Well, yes. Murder = bad/wrong

Just be sure to tell that to families of the innocent victimes though, if shit goes down as expected. "Trump exposed those murderous pieces of shit savages though".

I'd tell them that their loved ones were killed by savages that follow a terrible ideology.

Fair enough, but don't forget to add: "And it was set off because my President went against all intel telling him that this move has almost zero positives, but many negatives and bloodshed was an expected outcome." To be fair, you know.

Originally posted by Robtard
Fair enough, but don't forget to add: "And it was set off because my President went against all intel telling him that this move has almost zero positives, but many negatives and bloodshed was an expected outcome." To be fair, you know.

Neat, and now is the part I ask what you'd say to Kate Steinle's parents? To be fair, you know.

Yeah it's off topic, oh well.

Something like "liberals ignored laws because of feelings, your daughter is dead now, deal with it."

As long as you'd say something like that, I'll go say that shit to those people.

What I told you before, Surt. The system failed that time; someone should at least lose their job. The guy had previous arrests for drug related crimes, he should not have been set free. He wasn't just an illegal alien, he was an illegal with a serious criminal record.

But your deflection away from the topic since you can't properly respond has been noted.

Originally posted by Robtard
What I told you before, Surt. The system failed that time; someone should at least lose their job. The guy had previous arrests for drug related crimes, he should not have been set free. He wasn't just an illegal alien, he was an illegal with a serious criminal record.

But your deflection away from the topic since you can't properly respond has been noted.

I can properly respond, I would tell the families in the middle east it is not Trumps fault. It is the abhorrent religion that permeates the area.

What would be made known is that the savage islamic terrorists chose to take up arms against them, not Trump.

"The only reason Muslim fundamentalism is a threat to us is because the fundamentals of Islam are a threat to us."

Sam Harris

Originally posted by Surtur
I can properly respond, I would tell the families in the middle east it is not Trumps fault. It is the abhorrent religion that permeates the area.

What would be made known is that the savage islamic terrorists chose to take up arms against them, not Trump.

You will defend Trump no matter what at this point, that much is obvious. There's a reason this act wasn't done by previous presidents and in case you didn't know, they're not all Democrats. There's a reason The State Department issued warnings.

Originally posted by Robtard
You will defend Trump no matter what at this point, that much is obvious. There's a reason this act wasn't done by previous presidents and in case you didn't know, they're not all Democrats. There's a reason The State Department issued warnings.

You just showed your legendary memory is faulty. I won't defend anything he does. But if people are going to try to blame him for Islamic radicals behaving like Islamic radicals? Nope lol. Not on my watch.

I don't necessarily think Trump recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel is a bad political move per say. But it's a reminiscent of what Venezuela, Nicaragua and Russia (among others) have been doing by granting their recognition to rogue states in zone of conflict. He is not offering a solution by declaring Jerusalem a capital, but he's certainly pushing the International Community to renew their interest in the topic.

Is it irresponsible? Depends on how much of a responsability yoou think the US has in the current state of afairs with Israel. At this point is not nearly as much as some people would want you to believe.

Originally posted by Surtur
I don't want t see any of them committing terrorist attacks over this. They can show some civility. Let us see what happens.

@Surtur

Do you recall the war for independence? Why do you think it happened?

Now imagine British leaving US mainland but not before inviting jews to Washington DC and giving them the carte blanche to establish the state of Israel in the heart of the United States, and then Israel keeps on expanding its borders in the aftermath of each confrontation.

Do you think US would allow a new state to come into existence within its borders?

You need to understand what the Israel-Palestine conflict is all about, and UN-backed two-state solution for that region. Problem is that Israel continue to expand and Palestinians continue to suffer with virtually no end in sight to their suffering. Under these circumstances, radicalism can take hold.

Israel-Palestine dispute has nothing to do with Islam but it is about territorial claims and the right of Palestine to exist as a state.

Trump's move is both ill-advised and ill-timed.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
@[B]Surtur

Do you recall the war for independence? Why do you think it happened?

Now imagine British leaving US mainland but not before inviting jews to Washington DC and giving them the carte blanche to establish the state of Israel in the heart of the United States, and then Israel keeps on expanding its borders in the aftermath of each confrontation.

Do you think US would allow a new state to come into existence within its borders?

You need to understand what the Israel-Palestine conflict is all about, and UN-backed two-state solution for that region. Problem is that Israel continue to expand and Palestinians continue to suffer with virtually no end in sight to their suffering. Under these circumstances, radicalism can take hold.

Israel-Palestine dispute has nothing to do with Islam but it is about territorial claims and the right of Palestine to exist as a state.

Trump's move is both ill-advised and ill-timed. [/B]

Hey Surt, imagine if your landlord decided to spontaneously give your home to another person while you are still living in it. And that person moves into your home without your permission and with big guns. That person then gathers up all your things and shoves them into a corner (Gaza) and tells you to sleep in the corner. That person then proceeds to claim your living room and take ownership of your PS4.

^^^

Well said. Thank you.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Let's not act like a group of people should be held responsible for what some individuals in their group do.

But we CAN hold Trump responsible for how Islamic radicals react?

Trump you ****. One dead 33 injured already.

An attack happened over this already?

Weird, it's like The State Department and everyone else was correct or something.

Originally posted by Robtard
An attack happened over this already?

Weird, it's like The State Department and everyone else was correct or something.