The thing is it does matter...Whis confirms this when he explains it to Goku and Vegeta.
Vegito would not be able to hit Goku. Goku can just out last the fusion.
It also depends on where you place SSB Vegito compared to LSSJ2 Kefla. If Goku was able to damage Vegito he might be able to win with the limited amount of attacks he can actually use.
Originally posted by bbrem123Whis' comment about UI is exactly what made me think about this battle:
The thing is it does matter...Whis confirms this when he explains it to Goku and Vegeta.
*He says pretty much the exact same thing in the anime as well.
That said, are the massive advantages Goku gleans from UI enough to couteract the sheer gap in power that exists between he and SSB Vegito..? mmm
Originally posted by Galan007This is Dragon Ball we're talking about, so unless this is the final story arc, chances are that a new threat will pop up next arc that can one-shot UI Goku with zero effort, UI will become obsolete and Goku will have a new form/power-up to compensate. frusty
Whis' comment about UI is exactly what made me think about this battle:*He says pretty much the exact same thing in the anime as well.
That said, are the massive advantages Goku gleans from UI enough to couteract the sheer gap in power that exists between he and SSB Vegito..? mmm
As to the thread, showings-wise, UI Goku is the more impressive of the two, though SSB Vegito logically should be significantly stronger.
Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
This is Dragon Ball we're talking about, so unless this is the final story arc, chances are that a new threat will pop up next arc that can one-shot UI Goku with zero effort, UI will become obsolete and Goku will have a new form/power-up to compensate. frustyAs to the thread, showings-wise, UI Goku is the more impressive of the two, though SSB Vegito logically should be significantly stronger.
When are you going to stop with the butt hurt?
Anyways, UI Goku wins this and i also think his power is greater than Blue Vegito.
Originally posted by Galan007
You think he's got more raw power than Vegito? Why so?
Because he matched Jiren and I think Jiren is above Vegito. Jiren is G.O.D level and Blue Vegito is Merged Zamasu level. I think Beerus (or any GOD) would wreck MZ and easily. I know this is ABC logic but I think it gives a clear definition on where Super Saiyan Blue Vegito stands imo.
Im curious to where SSB Vegito/Merged Zemasu stand compared to Beerus. Was there anything to indicate they are on his level?
I just cant see it being true. It was a pretty inconsistent fight in the anime though. SSB Goku did more noticable damge than SSB Vegito.
Manga SSB Vegito was an absolute beast. The accurate portrayal of him if you ask me.
Originally posted by bbrem123
I curious to where SSB Vegito/Merged Zemasu stand compared to Beerus. Was there anything to indicate they are on his level?I just cant see it being true. It was a pretty inconsistent fight in the anime though. SSB Goku did more noticable damge than SSB Vegito.
Manga SSB Vegito was an absolute beast. The accurate portrayal of him if you ask me.
Anime Super Saiyan Blue Vegito was still stalemated during combat though and Goku did well against Merged Zamsu as well. Remember, he over powered his blast and then he stunned him with a kick.
Nothing was said on anyone of them being on Beerus level.
Originally posted by Kento
Kelfa isn't anywhere close to Vegetto in power.And EVEN if Goku can dodge the attacks by Vegetto, which I doubt, he wouldn't be able to touch Vegetto either. His attacking isn't instinctual, nor could he actual hurt the fusion.
Actually, Gohan and Piccolo commented on how Goku's attacks and dodging are acting in the same manor. He just has not mastered the attacking making his attacks weaker than they should be.
Whis also says he can fully utilize UI when attacking. He was still using it. It also shows that he was getting stronger and stronger against Kefla.
Originally posted by SSJGGogetaThe manga isn't even close to featuring UI Goku yet... It's only at the point where all the universes are assembling their teams for the ToP(the Zen Exhibition Match just concluded.)
UI hasn't shown up yet in the manga, afaik.Crazy though, I didn't see that scan in the manga. Does that mean anime SSJB Vegetto > Beerus as well, or what?
The scan is from Chap. 23 of the manga -- it should be canon to the anime, yes.
Originally posted by Galan007with every difference the manga has I don't know if things said in the anime and manga can cross. I mean manga Vegetto stomps Merged Zamasu like he's nothing after all while, when purple demon merged zamasu powers up he's equal to Vegetto when his halo form would be significantly weaker.
The scan is from Chap. 23 of the manga -- it should be canon to the anime, yes.