The next main/major antagonist of the MCU

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Galactus isn't as powerful as Thanos with the Gauntlet. He's up there, but doesn't beat him out. Both are only a fraction of God Emperor Doom, which means that yes, he can be a universal threat. In fact, the Beyonders abilities made him a multiversal threat.

Either way, the point of all that is to show that Doom at his most powerful has dwarfed some of the most powerful villains Marvel has had to offer. Power itself doesn't make one the best villain, but he has had that capability many times over. That said, his best stories IMO are the ones that have kept him more grounded and showcased his character, intellect, and ruthlessness. Those are the stories I want them to adapt (at least to start off).

I'm not arguing who's going to be next. Thats not the point of any of those posts. Chances are they've already planned out the next big bad and they've only recently acquired the rights to Fox. The point is Doom has the capability to deliver us the best Marvel stories to date, and he can easily be an epic threat. He is the best antagonist Marvel has to offer. Eventually, he will be a big bad. Probably not the next, but he's coming.

The Beyonder would actually be cool although it's hard to see current MCU having any kind of chance against him. I still even have doubts we'll get to see Thanos use the gauntlet to it's full comic level capability nevermind the Beyonder or God Emperor Doom.

I never said Thanos had to possess the Gaunlet for Galactus to respect him. In the comics Thanos was able to hurt Galactus gaunlet-less.

Naah. Thanos has accomplished more. The Infinity Gaunlet and the Heart of the Universe put Thanos way beyond Doom.

Again, I never said Doom wasn't going to be an excellent villain.

But when "THREAT" is concern...Doom doesn't really pose a big one TBH.

The Beyonders, Annihilus, Thanos, Korvac....Even Dormammu is a more dangerous foe than Doom.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
i honestly do not care who the next big bad will be... i am happy and looking forward to what Marvel does with these characters

Something we all agree. Yet we all also like discussing so...

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I never said Thanos had to possess the Gaunlet for Galactus to respect him. In the comics Thanos was able to hurt Galactus gaunlet-less.

Naah. Thanos has accomplished more. The Infinity Gaunlet and the Heart of the Universe put Thanos way beyond Doom.

Again, I never said Doom wasn't going to be an excellent villain.

But when "THREAT" is concern...Doom doesn't really pose a big one TBH.

The Beyonders, Annihilus, Thanos, Korvac....Even Dormammu is a more dangerous foe than Doom.

I don't see why a villain needs to be more powerful than Thanos. As long as he/she/they is powerful enough to fight the Avengers on equal or superior footing, that's more than enough of a threat imo.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
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Man, I want to see this guy done justice in an MCU movie.

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I'm not saying that you cant have a subjective thought or opinion. You can like or dislike a villain all you like. It's like Negan and the Governor. You don't like Negan, and thats fine, but he's had more impact on the group and TWD in general. Doom has a much bigger pool of stories to pull from, and has been the center of so many Marvel events that even looking at him objectively, you have to acknowledge the fact that he is a huge threat in his own right and easily as big as Thanos.

That bet is a bit random. What do you define as "big bad"? Ultron was big enough to be an Avengers villain but he's no Thanos. TBH I'd bet on him being a big bad eventually (most likely after whoever comes next), but he may need set up before then. Phase 4 is already completely planned out so it's more likely he'll be integrated after for Phase 5 or 6 since they barely got him back. He needs to be at the center of an FF story first for sure.

No one is as big as Thanos has consistently been. Thanos is the big bad of marvel. Doom has more appearances and at his best he's become the focal point with amps but he's never succeeded like Thanos with his goals. Thanos has won and has only defeated himself. Doom's willpower was broken in secret wars in humiliating fashion and Reed humiliated him as he usually does. Doom can rise to the top but he isn't the successful one Thanos has been. Thanos even saved doom from being killed by Akhtentan or however you spell his name in an endless loop. He was not even smart enough to grasp the situation.

Thanos was the big bad and it took three phases to finally see him. Doom will be a threat in the same vein as Loki. So you accept the bet. If he's the center of a FF story he won't be the big bad he might just be an opportunistic Loki who eventually stumbled onto something which upgrades him not the same cache as Thanos who looms in the background and terrifies aliens all throughout the cosmos. His reputation is quite impressive and stands alone.

Originally posted by Mindset
You really just have no idea what you're talking about.

Comic stuff.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Comic stuff.

Originally posted by Mindset
Which you obviously have no clue about.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't see why a villain needs to be more powerful than Thanos. As long as he/she/they is powerful enough to fight the Avengers on equal or superior footing, that's more than enough of a threat imo.

Because of the title of this threat.

The Thread is asking which villain will be the next big bad in the MCU. The thread isn't which is going to be the next villain in the avengers.

Since the post credit scene in Avengers 1 everyone knew Thanos was the big bad villain in the MCU.

Now, once Thanos is defeated, someone else will have to replace him.

The MCU will have to look for someone more powerful than Thanos.

Why?

It wouldn't be interesting to go watch a movie whose big bad villain is nothing compared to the previous one.

E.G.

Star Wars made Snoke. A villain which promises to be more powerful than Darth Sidious.

So now everyone is interested in going to watch the movies.

Originally posted by Mindset
Which you obviously have no clue about.

Me or you?

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Yah. This guy is a troll methinks.. He CAN'T be this ignorant.....

Lol. Whatever. When Doom doesn't make the next big bad in the MCU will see who the ignorant is.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't see why a villain needs to be more powerful than Thanos.

Bingo

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander

Lol. Whatever. When Doom doesn't make the next big bad in the MCU will see who the ignorant is.

What does this mean? The main Villain in the next Avengers film? Or the main villain to pop up in and built up over multiple films?

Doom’s a great choice for either tbh. Him and Magneto are gonna wreck house.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
It wouldn't be interesting to go watch a movie whose big bad villain is nothing compared to the previous one.

The Joker was hands down the physically weakest villain in any of the Nolan Batman movies yet he was the best villain in the entire trilogy because he was more interesting. Power is well and good but it doesn't make someone a good or big villain. Superman's biggest enemy has been a human for decades when he's had a flat out interdimensional reality warper like Mr. Mxyzptlk in the roster. Green Goblin would get his butt handed to him in a fight with plenty of Spidey villains like Morlun, Hobgoblin, or Electro yet he's the nemesis. Strange has been up against more powerful entities than even Dormammu. The FF have faced more powerful enemies than Doom, yet he's still their biggest threat and has rocked them harder than any of the others time and time again.

Not to mention that in Dooms sense, he's so versatile. He can play a super grounded and personal villain for the FF like he has done on many occasions. He can play a worldwide threat for the Avengers and actually make them seem inferior to himself. He can play a threat spanning the multiverse against the entire Marvel roster. He can play at whatever level the plot needs him to and play it all convincingly while being a better written, more interesting, and deeper character than Thanos. What makes someone the best villain?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
What does this mean? The main Villain in the next Avengers film? Or the main villain to pop up in and built up over multiple films?

Doom’s a great choice for either tbh. Him and Magneto are gonna wreck house.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Because of the title of this threat.

The Thread is asking which villain will be the next big bad in the MCU. The thread isn't which is going to be the next villain in the avengers.

Since the post credit scene in Avengers 1 everyone knew Thanos was the big bad villain in the MCU.

Now, once Thanos is defeated, someone else will have to replace him.

The MCU will have to look for someone more powerful than Thanos.

Why?

It wouldn't be interesting to go watch a movie whose big bad villain is nothing compared to the previous one.

E.G.

Star Wars made Snoke. A villain which promises to be more powerful than Darth Sidious.

So now everyone is interested in going to watch the movies.

Can't say I agree at all. Anyone powerful enough to beat the Avengers single-handed isn't going to have much trouble with the Guardians and Black Panther.

You could easily do someone like Kang or a less-crap Ultron and they'd work just fine.

As would Doom, if you used any number of arcs.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Two of the greatest Marvel villains and both are back home.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander

E.G.

Star Wars made Snoke. A villain which promises to be more powerful than Darth Sidious.

So now everyone is interested in going to watch the movies.

That was never promised. And Snoke

Spoiler:
was clearly not in Palpatine’s League, and yet TLJ has had the 2nd biggest opening of all time

Originally posted by Darth Thor
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That was never promised. And Snoke

Spoiler:
was clearly not in Palpatine’s League, and yet TLJ has had the 2nd biggest opening of all time

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Havent watched the Last Jedi so cant respond to your spoiler yet.

Yes it was promise. The filmmakers claimed that Snoke would be more dangerpus and powerful than Sidious.

The next big MCU villain does not have to be Thanos level to be effective.

Now Marvel finally has its choice of what villains to use.

I feel like they shouldn't escalate the power levels of stories right away after the infinity war. I feel like more grounded stories can be made without having to make every threat cosmic+ in nature to mix up the pace of storytelling a bit. Cosmic this and cosmic that (especially since that's the direction of the JL it looks like) would just become boring eventually IMO.

If I were to pick a villain, I'd say Mole Man. Tho, prolly not as an Avengers villain. Maybe for a FF reboot?

Giant Kaiju type creatures. Armies of moloids. Underground battles (could be an interesting setting, since being away from the main cities means that they can cut loose with the power). It would be a fresh change of pace from all the space/cosmic stuff that's being thrown at us.

Doesn't have the oomph factor of a cosmic big bad, but maybe a temporary shift in direction will help keep the movies from getting repetitive.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander

Yes it was promise. The filmmakers claimed that Snoke would be more dangerpus and powerful than Sidious.

I never heard that from any filmmaker. So even if true, it wasn’t highly publicised at all.

Dr Doom hands down...

Why? For many reasons:

1) When fully explored, as in the comics, he has an excellent backstory and is rich in character depth...

His hatred for Reed Richards and desire to free his mom from Mephisto can make for some awesome story telling...

2) He is much more than just raw power...

Dr Doom has one of the strongest intellects in Marvel and as such, he can be a part of a compelling story without need for the constant "power creep" that we sometimes see in movies (with each baddie being more powerful than the one before him endlessly)...

3) Doom is so versatile that he can be almost anyone's enemy and fit the role nicely; he'd fit just as well against Strange as he would against the Avengers or the Fantastic Four...

In conclusion, its gotta be Doom...

Its gotta be...

And to add to the reasons stated above (after several disappointing incarnations of him on the big screen) we are owed the REAL Dr Doom d@mmit!!

We've had enough with these fake Dooms that Fox has exposed us to; lets see Dr Doom realized in all his comicbook glory...

🙂