Originally posted by NephthysHe had the potential and it certainly looked like he was living up to that potential until he became the Supreme Leader. Then he fell apart. Now he's just a shell of the unrealized he had during those force-link scenes with Rey. Now he's just a whiny momma's boy unfit to be the main antagonist. It's hard to take him seriously the way we took Vader seriously in the OT. Now THAT was a villain.
Kylo Ren is a better character than Vader has ever been.fite me fanbois estahuh
What did Kylo and Rey show that they're above Snoke either together or individually? Kylo had to cheap shot Snoke and Snoke was rag dolling Rey like nothing, who is Kylos equal considering their tug of war with Anakins saber. Snoke also dismisses Kylo when Kylo tried to get uppity.
As for the thread, unless Rey suddenly unlocked more power when she did her "lifting rocks" feat, that's a good showing for Snokes power. He beats S1 Kanan probably, haven't seen the other seasons though.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
What? When Kylo tried to attack Snoke he wrecked him before the Praetorian Guard could even react.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Maybe you have a different definition of combat than me, but in actual combat, two people face each other in a neutral setting. Usually without shooting lightning at the floor, and other such nonsense.
Kylo tried to get the jump on him from what I saw and Snoke wrecked him.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Maybe you have a different definition of combat than me, but in actual combat, two people face each other in a neutral setting. Usually without shooting lightning at the floor, and other such nonsense. Snoke isn't a combatant, and can barely even move, especially considered to the average Force User. I'm not going to put him above several people just because he can outsmart Kylo, who acts like a manchild, anymore than I put Dooku above Anakin just because he shocks him occasionally and uses TK on him.
Originally posted by Lord Stark
Kylo tried to get the jump on him from what I saw and Snoke wrecked him.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
[B]Maybe you have a different definition of combat than me, but in actual combat, two people face each other in a neutral setting. Usually without shooting lightning at the floor, and other such nonsense.