Can Sidious one-shot Revan?

Originally posted by darthbane77
He factually did not TK the Lusankya, lmao, I literally JUST posted the scan proving that.

Being greater than Plagueis means nothing when Vitiate is likewise above Plagueis.

Vitiate borderline one-shotted Revan, who's near enough to Yoda in his own right, by feats.

Dooku and Maul are fodder to Vitiate as well, try harder.

lol @ "mid tier Jedi", Revan (who I'm assuming you're talking about) is easily within Yoda's wheelhouse in regards to power. Plus, Revan didin't really get that close to killing Vitiate.

Based on?

Kek. "VITIATE DIDNT ONESHOT REVAN SO NEITHER CAN SIDIOUS" "VITIATE NEAR ONE-SHOTTED REVAN ON A DARK SIDE NEXUS SO HES >>> SIDIOUS". And Yoda >> Revan.

Based on what is Dooku fodder to NoVitiate?

I'm talking about Meetra ffs. Pathetic showing.

Can't recall Exar absorbing a planet-destroying explosion.

Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
If Sidious mind-fogged Coruscant citizens. That means the power wasn't applicative on them at once, but Palpatine mind-fogged just those in the vicinity of the ship.

The idea that Sidious somehow did it with TK, is ludicrous.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Has been debunked several times.

Based on?

Kek. "VITIATE DIDNT ONESHOT REVAN SO NEITHER CAN SIDIOUS" "VITIATE NEAR ONE-SHOTTED REVAN ON A DARK SIDE NEXUS SO HES >>> SIDIOUS". And Yoda >> Revan.

Based on what is Dooku fodder to NoVitiate?

I'm talking about Meetra ffs. Pathetic showing.

Can't recall Exar absorbing a planet-destroying explosion.

The scan I provided hasn't been debunked, if there's something that disproves, then provide it.

Given Vitiate and Sidious are equals at the least, if Vitiate can't do it, then no, neither can Sidious.

Feats. A severely weakened Vitiate dominating the minds of the citizens on Ziost, and then casually draining the planet of all life, is VASTLY beyond Dooku's best feats. Plus, any being with a literal planet's worth of power is going to be in an entirely separate tier than anyone that isn't Sidious or Luke, meaning the likes of Vitiate or Nihilus are far more comparable to Sidious than you would be willing to think.

Meetra didn't come close to killing Vitiate, she had an opening to make the ATTEMPT to do so, but nothing proves that she would have succeeded.

lmao, now you're just being stupid. Kun is well beyond Poof.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Most debate circles treat feats better than accolades. Feats are legitimate showings of power, generally they aren't exaggerated, they're direct representations of what a character can do. An accolade of "____ is most powerful", despite having inferior feats to someone else, isn't worth the paper it's written on.

So a fictional event written by an author is more credible than a fictional accolade written by an author? lul

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
So a fictional event written by an author is more credible than a fictional accolade written by an author? lul

Originally posted by darthbane77
Vitiate borderline one-shotted Revan, who's near enough to Yoda in his own right, by feats.

Revan (who I'm assuming you're talking about) is easily within Yoda's wheelhouse in regards to power.

Weird, I thought you'd put Revan above Yoda.

Anyway, accolades are usually far better to gauge the strenght of a character. Feats are inconcistent - Yoda struggling to lift a pillar in AOTC, and ragdolling huge ships in OCW. Luke struggling with Lumiya, and stomping Caedus. Caedus struggling with mandos and destroying Kyle.

Originally posted by Freedon Nadd
Weird, I thought you'd put Revan above Yoda.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
So a fictional event written by an author is more credible than a fictional accolade written by an author? lul

A detailed account of a feat at least allows us more information to use as a means of articulating what would happen in a hypothetical scenario.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Anyway, accolades are usually far better to gauge the strenght of a character. Feats are inconcistent - Yoda struggling to lift a pillar in AOTC, and ragdolling huge ships in OCW. Luke struggling with Lumiya, and stomping Caedus. Caedus struggling with mandos and destroying Kyle.

Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
For versus forum purposes, absolutely! NONE of these accolades are EVER made with the mindset of "who would win if suddenly dropped into a stupid random cage match with no preparation whatsoever." 😂

Originally posted by darthbane77
The scan I provided hasn't been debunked, if there's something that disproves, then provide it.

Given Vitiate and Sidious are equals at the least, if Vitiate can't do it, then no, neither can Sidious.

Feats. A severely weakened Vitiate dominating the minds of the citizens on Ziost, and then casually draining the planet of all life, is VASTLY beyond Dooku's best feats. Plus, any being with a literal planet's worth of power is going to be in an entirely separate tier than anyone that isn't Sidious or Luke, meaning the likes of Vitiate or Nihilus are far more comparable to Sidious than you would be willing to think.

Meetra didn't come close to killing Vitiate, she had an opening to make the ATTEMPT to do so, but nothing proves that she would have succeeded.

lmao, now you're just being stupid. Kun is well beyond Poof.

Dude, you do understand what circular logic is right?

Pretty sure that Az (arguably) debunked Ziost in his essay. Also, Valkorion =/= Novel Vitiate.

She struggled with her and a fugging droid lol. Not that it matters, as feats are inconcistent.

Give me a feat from Kun that's better.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Correct, and then THEY buried the Lusankya.

The idea that Sidious somehow did it with TK, is ludicrous.

That means Sidious mind-fogging the entire planet is also debunked. There are many rettarded fans who think he mind-wiped an entire planet. 😂

Originally posted by darthbane77
Easily attributed to growth over time, earlier iterations of a character are logically less capable of doing something than another character. Accolades can say whatever they want, but the actual demonstrated power of a character is vastly more reliable, imo.

Originally posted by darthbane77
SoR Revan, I do. Novel/Reborn Revan, I put around Plagueis.

Why you split them apart?

Originally posted by darthbane77
Despite what (I assume) is sarcasm, this isn't incorrect.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
40 ABY Caedus:destroys Kyle
41 ABY Caedus: struggles with mandos
-> growth
mmm

This is more of a plot problem than something to do with Force strength.

Originally posted by darthbane77
Yes, considering the event itself is a direct showcase of power, an accolade isn't. If we treated accolades as 100% factual, as most of you seem to do, Skere Kaan's "embodiment of the Dark Side" quotes could be used to argue Kaan~The Son. Accolades should, in most cases, be considered in arguments or rankings, but almost never considered as total fact or truth.

As if there aren't inconsistent feats... 🙄

Well yeah, in actuality literally every debating circle other than the SW one puts a premium on feats over statements.

Just Saiyan. 🙂

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Well yeah, in actuality literally every debating circle other than the SW one puts a premium on feats over statements.

Just Saiyan. 🙂