Rank Force-Sensitives by Dueling Prowess (Legends)

Other thread have canon revelation that Palpatine is beyond skill in addition to beyond power. He is number 1 IMO

The tier list isn't in order. It's just in arguable tiers of skill. I'll designate which numbers they're ranked at later. And I forgot to include Darth Venamis. And the Outlander. And the 2nd Emperor's Wrath.

I didn't even remember the quote, nor that Luke wasn't part of the order at the time.

Why did you put Jaina so high, then?

Jaina was blocking blows from Caedus (LotF) who can deflect turbolasers long before his prime (LotF), and turbolasers can generate more energy than the combined nuclear arsenal of the United States by orders of magnitude (ICS II and III). 🙂

Let me correct you on that one:

Jaina was struggling against a mentally disturbed Caedus that was missing an arm and just had a lightsaber impaled in his gut via ambush.

Jaina noted Caedus shouldn't even be alive when they started fighting and yet Caedus still was better than her for most of the fight.

A great feat for Caedus. 🙂

And a bad one for Jaina. 👆

Top

Luke
Knightfall Anakin
Sidious
Yoda

Very High

Mace
Exar Kun
Caedus
Dooku
The Outlander
Ulic
Obi Wan

Intermediate High

Krayt
Maul
Revan
Malgus
Arcann
Maul
Cade
Jaina(?)

Low High

Jaina(?)
Malak
HoT
Wrath
Savage
Ventress
B-Team
Meetra
Mara
Kyle
Aryn

I meant I didn't remember what the quote read.

Top Tier:
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Darth Sidious
3. Knightfall Vader / Yoda
4. Knightfall Vader / Yoda
5. Mace Windu
6. Darth Plagueis
The only people worthy of being 9.

Very High Tier:
7. Darth Krayt
8. Darth Plagueis
9. Revan / Darth Vader
10. Revan / Darth Vader
11. Starkiller(s) / Exar Kun / Ulic Qel-Droma
12. Starkiller(s) / Exar Kun / Ulic Qel-Droma
13. Starkiller(s) / Exar Kun / Ulic Qel-Droma
14. Darth Tyranus / Darth Malgus
15. Darth Tyranus / Darth Malgus
16. Darth Nyriss / Obi-Wan Kenobi / Darth Maul
17. Darth Nyriss / Obi-Wan Kenobi / Darth Maul
18. Darth Nyriss / Obi-Wan Kenobi / Darth Maul
19. Cade Skywalker / Darth Wyyrlok III
20. Cade Skywalker / Darth Wyyrlok III

High Tier:
21. Arcann / Shaak Ti
22. Arcann / Shaak Ti
23. Meetra Surik
24. Darth Traya

Not including Talzin, Darth Nihilus, or Darth Venamis.

Jesus Christ.

How can I improve? Aside from not ranking Plagueis twice, that is.

I respect your passion, Geis.

Nyriss is way too high. Kun is too low. Krayt is too high. Plagueis shouldn't even be > Dooku. Cade > Wyyrlok III. Windu isn't > Dooku. Revan isn't that high either.

Originally posted by Geistalt
I meant I didn't remember what the quote read.

High Tier:
24. Darth Traya

Given she studied ancient Sith lightsaber techniques from dozens of Sith holocrons, nevermind what was on Malachor V. Given she was already considered an excellent warrior on par with Yusanis decades earlier. Given she's the most intense dark side entity the second Emperor's Wrath had ever sensed before. Given she's capable of effortlessly defeating the Lost Jedi. Yeah, she's very obviously high tier.

This is just for Sabers, btw. I hardly take that list I made seriously. It was just what I felt like typing at the time.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I respect your passion, Geis.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Given she studied ancient Sith lightsaber techniques from dozens of Sith holocrons, nevermind what was on Malachor V.

Irrelevant.

Given she was already considered an excellent warrior on par with Yusanis decades earlier.

Insufficient accolade to be named alongside those characters.

Given she's the most intense dark side entity the second Emperor's Wrath had ever sensed before.

This has nothing to do with her combat abilities nor with her capacity to resist a pre-prime Baras' powers. Also, to note, the word used by the Wrath was "alive" not "intense".

Given she's capable of effortlessly defeating the Lost Jedi.

The only thing she has in common with the people in the list, with the possible exception of Shaak Ti.

Yeah, she's very obviously high tier.

She's high tier in the mythos but not among the estabilished characters featured in the list.

Agree with Ancient Power here, Traya is WAY underrated in both force and lightsabers.

Luke - he beats the Reborn Emperor way before his prime in DE, and all he needed was a barely mentioned "unlocking hidden resources" from a trainee Leia. Then he grows far more powerful through TUF and beyond. Clearly from that and holistic intent he's the top.

Zonakin / Knightfall Vader - his raw power is absurd, combined with prodigious technical skill.

Palpatine - while he's out of practice by Dark Empire his being in a young body and enormous strength in the Force should put him here.

Yoda - he seemed to be either stalemating or slightly edging RotS Sidious as a duelist, and is either heavily implied or outright stated to be the best duelist the Jedi had ever had to that point.

Windu / Caedus / Plagueis / Krayt - you could make a strong case for any of these.

The lack of Tenebrous on your list displeases me, Ell