Snoke vs Emperor of Mankind 40k

Started by TheVaultDweller3 pages

It's really not an exaggeration to say the Ultramarines movie was just irredeemably awful. It'd be great to get a big-budget, live-action 40k film, but it'd be a huge gamble on behalf of whichever studio takes it on. Because you would need a pretty sizable budget in order to do things justice. Even if you adapted something with less large-scale action, like one of Abnett's Eisenhorn novels, you'd still need to create all the different worlds, costumes etc. which wouldn't be cheap. And then you have to pour this money in and hope it finds an audience. Now, it is hardly impossible, but it is still a risk.

Plus, there is so much lore in 40k, you'd need to find something that can ease the general audience into the universe.

This thread goes into the the all vs forum, not here. That said, GEoM is overkill... by a lot.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
That said, GEoM is overkill... by a lot.

I think that's the point. The list of 40k characters well below the Emperor who could kill Snoke is pretty damn long.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I think that's the point. The list of 40k characters well below the Emperor who could kill Snoke is pretty damn long.

It would be funny to see Snoke go up against Horus.

Honestly, I could see Snoke going down to a decently experienced IG Primaris Psyker.

Horus would laugh at Snokes force powers.

Or Snoke against Sanguinius

Sanguinius is arguably the strongest Primarch. He would crush Snoke as easily as Elephant crushes a Lady Bug.

Eh, the whole strongest Primarch debate has never really been conclusive, because various characters have different opinions/criteria etc. by which they judge. For example, in terms of pure raw, destructive power they can unleash, I would probably put Magnus the Red at the top. The guy was pretty much wrecking and warping the entire landscape when he finally took to the field during the Siege of Prospero. But I highly doubt he would be able to defeat Angron in pure fisticuffs. And then most Primarchs have giant egos and think they themselves are the best at everything lol, though it should be noted that Corax was scared of facing Angron, but was confident he could have defeated both Lorgar and Curze. Now, whether he actually could have is another story. But just the contrast between his beliefs of his chances during those two instances says a lot.

Anyway, any Primarch, even pre-Chaos Lorgar (back when he still sucked at fighting), would flatten Snoke.

Primarchs are one of the hardest groups of characters to rank. Each having varying skill sets for different types of battles.

Yeah, that's why I never pay the "who is the best" discussions all that much attention. Too many variables. Different Primarchs excel in different areas (such as strength, speed, toughness, fighting prowess etc.). Or use different tactics to get the same job done. Perturabo's Iron Warriors would pick apart a fortress like they're disassembling some Lego, whereas Corax and his Raven Guard would most likely ninja their way inside instead. World Eaters would probably deep strike their drop pods through the fortress walls lol.

By the end of this fight Snoke will be all....

Emperor stops Snokes heart with a glance.

Well, as I pointed out previously, Snoke as an individual character wouldn't really be very far up in 40k, power-wise. I mean there are literally thousands of psykers who could probably use the Warp to replicate anything Snoke can do via the Force (such as some Inquisitors, Space Marine Librarians, Grey Knights etc.). And that's just getting into Imperial psykers. That's not even getting into the Eldar, Tyranids, Chaos forces etc. or getting into the non-psykers who could pose a threat to him (any Vindicare worth their salt should be able to put a bullet through Snoke's eye and get away without issues, given the level of competence the First Order has shown).

Not to mention 40K characters are far more vicious. A powerful psyker would have no qualms with turning Snokes blood into acid.

Speaking of powerful psykers, I actually just started on Black Legion, after having read The Talon of Horus some time ago. Khayon is an absolute monster. Even though Ahriman by implied power is above him (IIRC, Magnus himself claimed that Ahriman's power always shone the brightest among his sons), Khayon has pulled off some ridiculous crap. The guy literally telekinetically threw a spaceship at a planet, after lugging it across several light years, over a period of months.

I just finished Master of Mankind. I Will look into that next.

Yeah, these novels are interesting, as it basically chronicles the founding of the Black Legion. It shows you that they aren't simply re-branded Luna Wolves/Sons of Horus.

Another decent set of books is the Ahriman series. Khayon makes an appearance there as well. He and Ahriman seem to have somewhat of a rivalry going. Though those books prove that

Spoiler:
there is a reason Magnus is one of Tzeentch's greatest servants (trolls).

Originally posted by playa1258
Emperor stops Snokes heart with a glance.

Shocking, so very shocking. I am so shocked I have this look on my face:

Considering what an arrogant POS the Emperor is, he would probably make Snoke kneel. Like he did to the entire Word Bearers Legion.

Which just shows you how absurdly powerful that guy is. A 100,000 strong (IIRC) superhuman fighting force, capable of conquering entire planets in days, and he rendered them all powerless with a single thought.