Professions with the most respect

Started by riv66723 pages
Originally posted by darthgoober
He pulled that off because of his influence, respect didn't necessarily factor into his ability to pull that off.

Isn"t influence usually only applicable to the same industries/entwining industries?

I could see Hollywood and the video game industry having a big relationship now, but we're talking about 1994 or so.. Why would a film maker be able to influence video game companies making PC games and such?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
This actually reinforces a revelation I had in October.

I took psilocybin mushrooms a week after I got rejected by this girl I was really into, (which all things considered I think I handled in an emotionally mature way, and just working up the guts to actually ask her out after 8 months of having a serious crush was a moment of character development and personal actualization for me) which reinforced my appreciation for the world around me, as well as reinforcing a sense of responsibility and agency in my life.

The next day I was meditating and praying asking who I was as a person, and the one word that popped into my head was "Genesis." So I thought back to the beginning of Genesis where God pulls order from chaos to create the universe through articulate speech, and then immediately afterwards creates humans in his image, and then immediately has Adam name all of the animals. And the notion that we are made in God's image juxtaposed immediately after God created everything through articulate speech was just a really profound statement for me. It reminded me of the transcendent quality of articulate thought, speech, and action we possess as human beings that allows us to create the structures (both physical and cultural) that we inhabit and also take a conscious control over how we order and orient our own lives.

For me as a Christian this was a powerful revelation that reminded me of my own agency and responsibility as a human being, as well as the inherent worth of all human beings, and what I view as a gift from and statement to the nature of a being I associate with the highest ideal.

But even aside from whether or not you believe in God or think a belief in God is stupid, the significance of our capacity as articulate beings cannot be denied or overstated. Just looking at the progression of different species it is clear that for every other species such progression happens at an extremely slow rate tied exclusively to their biological evolution, whereas for humans our much quicker rate of progression is almost completely disconnected from that slow biological progression, and this is due to what amounts to an articulate conversation spanning thousands of years between human beings.

And for me as an individual taking proper account of and respect for that faculty has allowed me to become a more emotionally healthy human being and more responsible in the pursuit of my life goals, as well as orderly in my own conduct. It motivated me to make a sincere effort to be as honest of a human being as I can, engage in dialogues to better understand other people and help them understand who I am, actually ****ing study for my college exams, etc.

With the significance of this faculty for articulate speech to the individual in the form of a person's social interactions and overarching humanity in the form of the thousands of years old conversation of culture, it's no surprise that these cultural figures that say things that resonate with people accrue a uniquely intensive respect from large groups of people.

this was a journey.

Originally posted by riv6672

This is interesting but I'm not sure if the quadrants are named properly; you can not really recognize a profession as "warm" without thinking its full of douches (e.g. scientists).

The most hilarious thing is status doesn't make anyone happy and a factors in very little outside of your basic needs being met. People dwell too much on how others perceive them when in reality no one really cares outside a conversation or two if it doesn't directly affect them.

Originally posted by cdtm
Isn"t influence usually only applicable to the same industries/entwining industries?

I could see Hollywood and the video game industry having a big relationship now, but we're talking about 1994 or so.. Why would a film maker be able to influence video game companies making PC games and such?


EVERYONE wants influence Hollywood because of the near infinite ways of making a lot of money there.

Aside from that basic truth, that's right around the time the relationship between the two movies reached the point of making live action movies based on video games. Super Mario Brothers was released in 1993, Double Dragon and Streetfighter were released in 94, and Mortal Combat was released in 95.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
This actually reinforces a revelation I had in October.

I took psilocybin mushrooms a week after I got rejected by this girl I was really into, (which all things considered I think I handled in an emotionally mature way, and just working up the guts to actually ask her out after 8 months of having a serious crush was a moment of character development and personal actualization for me) which reinforced my appreciation for the world around me, as well as reinforcing a sense of responsibility and agency in my life.

The next day I was meditating and praying asking who I was as a person, and the one word that popped into my head was "Genesis." So I thought back to the beginning of Genesis where God pulls order from chaos to create the universe through articulate speech, and then immediately afterwards creates humans in his image, and then immediately has Adam name all of the animals. And the notion that we are made in God's image juxtaposed immediately after God created everything through articulate speech was just a really profound statement for me. It reminded me of the transcendent quality of articulate thought, speech, and action we possess as human beings that allows us to create the structures (both physical and cultural) that we inhabit and also take a conscious control over how we order and orient our own lives.

For me as a Christian this was a powerful revelation that reminded me of my own agency and responsibility as a human being, as well as the inherent worth of all human beings, and what I view as a gift from and statement to the nature of a being I associate with the highest ideal.

But even aside from whether or not you believe in God or think a belief in God is stupid, the significance of our capacity as articulate beings cannot be denied or overstated. Just looking at the progression of different species it is clear that for every other species such progression happens at an extremely slow rate tied exclusively to their biological evolution, whereas for humans our much quicker rate of progression is almost completely disconnected from that slow biological progression, and this is due to what amounts to an articulate conversation spanning thousands of years between human beings.

And for me as an individual taking proper account of and respect for that faculty has allowed me to become a more emotionally healthy human being and more responsible in the pursuit of my life goals, as well as orderly in my own conduct. It motivated me to make a sincere effort to be as honest of a human being as I can, engage in dialogues to better understand other people and help them understand who I am, actually ****ing study for my college exams, etc.

With the significance of this faculty for articulate speech to the individual in the form of a person's social interactions and overarching humanity in the form of the thousands of years old conversation of culture, it's no surprise that these cultural figures that say things that resonate with people accrue a uniquely intensive respect from large groups of people.

Awesome.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Prostitute.

Well with the way our culture pedastalises useless whores like Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian it would seem the case.

I think President of the United States used to be a respected position until Trump took over.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Well with the way our culture pedastalises useless whores like Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian it would seem the case.

I think President of the United States used to be a respected position until Trump took over.

He is belligerent as f*ck, correct? He really says some dumb shit. But when it comes purely to actions you could find something deeply disturbing from more or less any president from the last several decades.

JFK lied and stoked cold war fears in order to help get elected, for instance. I am not making excuses for Trump, merely trying to show you that he isn't the oncoming storm(Doctor Who reference ftw).

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Well with the way our culture pedastalises useless whores like Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian it would seem the case.

I think President of the United States used to be a respected position until Trump took over.

I dont think they put them on pedastels. I think Americans just have a weird obsession with rich attractive people.

Depends on the president. Reagan was always regal to me as a kid.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I dont think they put them on pedastels. I think Americans just have a weird obsession with rich attractive people.

Depends on the president. Reagan was always regal to me as a kid.

But if you remember Reagan also did things like the joke about attacking Russia in five minutes. Though I do respect Reagan.

Originally posted by Surtur
But if you remember Reagan also did things like the joke about attacking Russia in five minutes. Though I do respect Reagan.

Thats not a takeaway. A bit of levity is fine in leadership. I admire leaders who dont take themselves too seriously

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Thats not a takeaway. A bit of levity is fine in leadership. I admire leaders who dont take themselves too seriously

I like him, but I have to disagree a bit. A joke like that during the cold war, IIRC Russia actually went on alert or something over it, correct?

Originally posted by Surtur
He is belligerent as f*ck, correct? He really says some dumb shit. But when it comes purely to actions you could find something deeply disturbing from more or less any president from the last several decades.

JFK lied and stoked cold war fears in order to help get elected, for instance. I am not making excuses for Trump, merely trying to show you that he isn't the oncoming storm(Doctor Who reference ftw).

Right, of course any other president has been less-than-perfect. But we're talking about R-E-S-P-E-C-T for the position. And Trump has tainted the position arguably more than any other president by, as you say, saying and doing some of the dumbest and most despicable shit and making absolutely no apology for it and in fact thinking that his shit doesn't even stink.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I dont think they put them on pedastels. I think Americans just have a weird obsession with rich attractive people.

Yeah, I mean I guess my problem is that they aren't even really celebrities in the same sense as say actors or musicians. They aren't even entertainers to my knowledge, so the fact that the Kardashians have a big reality TV show is mind-boggling to me.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Right, of course any other president has been less-than-perfect. But we're talking about R-E-S-P-E-C-T for the position. And Trump has tainted the position arguably more than any other president by, as you say, saying and doing some of the dumbest and most despicable shit and making absolutely no apology for it and in fact thinking that his shit doesn't even stink.

Yeah, I mean I guess my problem is that they aren't even really celebrities in the same sense as say actors or musicians. They aren't even entertainers to my knowledge, so the fact that the Kardashians have a big reality TV show is mind-boggling to me.

I agree, I just think people need to pay attention to actions more than words with Trump.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Right, of course any other president has been less-than-perfect. But we're talking about R-E-S-P-E-C-T for the position. And Trump has tainted the position arguably more than any other president by, as you say, saying and doing some of the dumbest and most despicable shit and making absolutely no apology for it and in fact thinking that his shit doesn't even stink.

Yeah, I mean I guess my problem is that they aren't even really celebrities in the same sense as say actors or musicians. They aren't even entertainers to my knowledge, so the fact that the Kardashians have a big reality TV show is mind-boggling to me.


Personally, I think most people who're familiar with him would say that Andrew Johnson was worse. Trump is obviously at a disadvantage in the sense that he's fresher in the minds of the masses so there's plenty of people with only a passing knowledge of history who'll say that Trump is the worse president ever, but from an objective standpoint I'd say Johnson has him beat by a mile.

Originally posted by Surtur
I like him, but I have to disagree a bit. A joke like that during the cold war, IIRC Russia actually went on alert or something over it, correct?

Yes. It was a joke made during sound check before his real speech and yes USSR went on alert for 30 min. But iirc it was just a joke and iirc it wasnt even made public till later.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Thats not a takeaway. A bit of levity is fine in leadership. I admire leaders who dont take themselves too seriously

Granted, Trump is hardly someone who doesn't take himself seriously.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I dont think they put them on pedastels. I think Americans just have a weird obsession with rich attractive people.

That's humans, not only Americans.

Originally posted by riv6672

Yup, this is cool. I like it.

But, likely, the data is a bit suspect because of how they had to "poll" this information. That's my opinion and I could be wrong.