The Dread Masters; underrated?

Started by Azronger2 pages
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
People giving shit to the Dread Masters for a Jedi Master ambushing them but ignore when a bounty hunter walked up to Vader and beat the shit out of him with a metal pole.

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Originally posted by Azronger
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By no means did Vader want to kill Sang, but there is no indication whatsoever he just allowed Sang to beat him up.

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Originally posted by Azronger
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Think he's referring to Falco Sang, an assassin whose reputation in killing is similar to Boba Fett like his hunting.

Although forgetting that Sang was being trained by the Empire under Vader and that the officer told him to impress Vader and Vader told him to overcome his fear.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Although forgetting that Sang was being trained by the Empire under Vader and that the officer told him to impress Vader and Vader told him to overcome his fear.

I'm not forgetting that. It's just that none of that remotely justifies it, lawl.

And, as of this point, I don't think Vader has trained him - at least not in H2H.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I'm not forgetting that. It's just that none of that remotely justifies it, lawl.

And, as of this point, I don't think Vader has trained him - at least not in H2H.

He had been trained before that whole instance in Fire Carrier. Vader designed his own training pretty much, giving him obstacle courses, going up against droids and so on.

Sang was frightened of Vader when they trained together, Vader told him to man up and overcome his fear or he was useless to Vader. He did train him.

I think it's more reasonable he allowed it so Sang could show he didn't fear Vader anymore and as soon as that was sufficient he completely dominated him.

So jumping over boxes + fighting a few robots + getting an inspirational talk by Vader = justifiably beating the shit out of Vader?

Seems legit.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
So jumping over boxes + fighting a few robots + getting an inspirational talk by Vader = justifiably beating the shit out of Vader?

Seems legit.

Not seeing the whole picture I see.

Also Vader allowing it, then sure.

The fact Vader encouraged this sort of behavior does not remotely suggest Vader isn't going to defend himself against it.

That just... doesn't follow, especially with how we know Sith operate.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The fact Vader encouraged this sort of behavior does not remotely suggest Vader isn't going to defend himself against it.

That just... doesn't follow, especially with how we know Sith operate.

He did defend himself, the officer told Sang to impress Vader, Sang had to overcome his fear of Vader. As soon as Sang struck him with the part, Vader immediately ended it and Sang asked how did he do with his impression?

Vader said it was better than the last time and Vader isn't exactly like other Sith.

But anyway were kinda veering off the topic at hand, no the DMs aren't underrated imo, they just aren't talked about a whole lot compared to other Force Users. Which I find a little strange, since the lot of you really seem to like the TOR characters.

Exactly. The point Vader ended it only after getting speedblitzed and wacked with a metal pole is the entire point.

ffs, stop posting

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Exactly. The point Vader ended it only after getting speedblitzed and wacked with a metal pole is the entire point.

ffs, stop posting

Right and Vader seemed to have allowed it with all the other evidence prior. But were going in circles at this point, you wanna have your view that's fine too.

You have provided no evidence whatsoever that Vader allowed himself to get beat up.

If Vader wanted ShitHunter to improve, he wouldn't just stroke his ego - he'd want him to actually perform.

If Vader could have just destroyed ShitHunter easily, he would have and told him to improve to the point where he could actually do that.

The fact ShitHunter got in two crucial blows before Vader ended the fight - and then Vader telling him that he improved - indicates that what ShitHunter did was legit.

Your notion that Vader wants to make ShitHunter feel good about himself just baffles me.

go away

Fine Ant, believe what you want.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Fine Ant, believe what you want.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66

By no means did Vader want to kill Sang, but there is no indication whatsoever he just allowed Sang to beat him up.

I'd never seen this. Azronger has no response, RIP.

I was always of the belief that Darth Sidious was in the league of the Dread Masters.