Originally posted by SquallX
You’re a ****ing idiot.The same was said about Obama, and guess what? I also considered them idiots.
It’s your ****ing fault Trump won. If you’re side wasn’t lying every 5 secs, we would have gained a far worse person.
That doesn't make any sense. You can't blame the opposition for Trump's victory.
Trump voters are responsible for Trump winning. They voted for him over sixteen other Republican candidates in the primaries and caucuses, and they voted for him the general election. The "See what you made me do?!" argument does not cast off any responsibility for one's actions.
You're placing value on integrity, yet the candidate with the least amount of integrity was elected president...whom do you think would have been worse, and why?
Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
I'm left wondering, now people have stood up as Trumpers. What happens to them as the majority regain control?
I think everyone should try to check out this, it's long, but maybe watch it in bits in pieces or maybe just check out small bits of it, but I think it gives you more insight into the mind of Richard Spencer(the alt right poster boy) than anything else.
Originally posted by Eternal IdolHe is an amusing clown, he means Hilary.
That doesn't make any sense. You can't blame the opposition for Trump's victory.Trump voters are responsible for Trump winning. They voted for him over sixteen other Republican candidates in the primaries and caucuses, and they voted for him the general election. The "See what you made me do?!" argument does not cast off any responsibility for one's actions.
You're placing value on integrity, yet the candidate with the least amount of integrity was elected president...whom do you think would have been worse, and why?
Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
He is an amusing clown, he means Hilary.
Of course he means Hillary, but I've never understood the argument from those who claim to understand that Trump was a severely flawed candidate, but that we could have wound up with a worse president than he.
What character flaws or lapses in integrity did the other candidates, from any party, have that Trump has not surpassed?
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
That doesn't make any sense. You can't blame the opposition for Trump's victory.Trump voters are responsible for Trump winning. They voted for him over sixteen other Republican candidates in the primaries and caucuses, and they voted for him the general election. The "See what you made me do?!" argument does not cast off any responsibility for one's actions.
You're placing value on integrity, yet the candidate with the least amount of integrity was elected president...whom do you think would have been worse, and why?
Because you’re side chose not to vote. Because the media lied so much, the average joe stopped giving a ****.
The average American didn’t want another career politician, that why Thrump won.
It’s even funnier, because prior to Thrump running for office and becoming a Republican, everyone loved him. From Jesse Jackson, to Al Sharpton, to Hillary and Bill Clinton. Hell, there are videos out there of prominent black organizations praising Thrumps when he was a democrat.
But the second he stopped giving them money, he’s now a racist, a rapist and xenophobic?
Do you see the problem? If Thrump were all those things, why befriend him? Why take his money?
Is like being friends with a rapist. You know he’s a rapist, but as long as the world doesn’t know, it’s okay. But the second the world knows, you remove yourself from him. This is what happened with Thrump and the Democrats.
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Of course he means Hillary, but I've never understood the argument from those who claim to understand that Trump was a severely flawed candidate, but that we could have wound up with a worse president than he.What character flaws or lapses in integrity did the other candidates, from any party, have that Trump has not surpassed?
People didn't want the same little shits in the WH, it's that simple. We'd have more of the same.
Seriously, it's not hard to get. People took a gamble on Trump because they had no clue what they'd get from him, but knew exactly what they'd get from Hilary and they didn't want it. You can say the gamble didn't pan out, but stop with the silly ignorance as to why folk wouldn't want Hilary.
She lost, she deserved to lose. Next time pick a better candidate.
Originally posted by SquallX
Because you’re side chose not to vote. Because the media lied so much, the average joe stopped giving a ****.The average American didn’t want another career politician, that why Thrump won.
It’s even funnier, because prior to Thrump running for office and becoming a Republican, everyone loved him. From Jesse Jackson, to Al Sharpton, to Hillary and Bill Clinton. Hell, there are videos out there of prominent black organizations praising Thrumps when he was a democrat.
But the second he stopped giving them money, he’s now a racist, a rapist and xenophobic?
Do you see the problem? If Thrump were all those things, why befriend him? Why take his money?
Is like being friends with a rapist. You know he’s a rapist, but as long as the world doesn’t know, it’s okay. But the second the world knows, you remove yourself from him. This is what happened with Thrump and the Democrats.
Again, you can't blame the opposition for Trump being elected president. They didn't vote for him, and even with the disappointing voter turnout, more Americans voted for Clinton than for Trump. If the presidential election were decided by popular vote, she'd have won handily. Instead, Trump won enough electoral votes to seal the victory. That blame goes solely on those who voted for Trump.
I understand that people were fed up of career politicians maintaining the status quo, but there were qualified long-serving candidates in the running who were snubbed by both parties and voters because they simply weren't well-known or pro-establishment. Sanders and Kasich seemed like the most sensible choices for president of those running. Instead, people supported Hillary because she was recognizable (if not likeable), experienced, and very pro-establishment; and Trump, because he developed a cult of personality in spite of a severe lack of qualifications, integrity, and convictions.
Trump has always been a ****, but his cuntiness has increased dynamically in the last ten years or so. He's done an about-face on quite a few issues since his Democrat days. He was more agreeable to people like the Clintons, Jackson, and Sharpton back then; they shared a common goal. Now, they can't see eye-to-eye on just about anything.
Originally posted by Surtur
People didn't want the same little shits in the WH, it's that simple. We'd have more of the same.Seriously, it's not hard to get. People took a gamble on Trump because they had no clue what they'd get from him, but knew exactly what they'd get from Hilary and they didn't want it. You can say the gamble didn't pan out, but stop with the silly ignorance as to why folk wouldn't want Hilary.
She lost, she deserved to lose. Next time pick a better candidate.
That's like being fed up of dealing with any other qualified professional, say a plumber or electrician, and hiring a self-proclaimed handy man for the job...and then getting pissed off at the plumber/electrician you didn't hire because the handy man you did hire had no idea what he was doing and ****ed everything up.
There were better candidates from both parties in Sanders and Kasich. Both were snubbed by their parties, by the media, and by voters in favor of the more recognizable and pro-establishment Clinton and Trump...which is pretty ****ing ironic, considering people wanted a drastic improvement from the status quo.
Hillary and the DNC deserved that loss, and Trump didn't deserve to win. Americans need to get more involved in the political process, stop playing identity politics, and actually vote for the candidate who best represents their interests and of the nation as a whole.
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
That's like being fed up of dealing with any other qualified professional, say a plumber or electrician, and hiring a self-proclaimed handy man for the job...and then getting pissed off at the plumber/electrician you didn't hire because the handy man you did hire had no idea what he was doing and ****ed everything up.
No, it's like wanting to try to self proclaimed handy man because a bunch of potential corruption and scandals surround the professional.
And maybe, if you wanna stick with that example, lets throw in the "professionals" forgetting very basic protocols they should have known when it comes to the job that might raise alarm bells. Then let us assume those meant to hold the professionals in check are shady as f*ck too and not to be trusted.
Now that example sounds a bit more like what we were dealing with, IMO.
There were better candidates from both parties in Sanders and Kasich. Both were snubbed by their parties, by the media, and by voters in favor of the more recognizable and pro-establishment Clinton and Trump...which is pretty ****ing ironic, considering people wanted a drastic improvement from the status quo.
There were indeed better candidates.
Hillary and the DNC deserved that loss, and Trump didn't deserve to win. Americans need to get more involved in the political process, stop playing identity politics, and actually vote for the candidate who best represents their interests and of the nation as a whole.
Lol, after the Golden Globes people now want Oprah to run in 2020. Identity politics ain't going anywhere. And we both know if she ran and lost racism would be blamed.
Both sides do it. Trying to appeal to Christians or the middle class is identity politics, it is just not as utterly blatant and obnoxious as when the Dems pull their shit.
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
That doesn't make any sense. You can't blame the opposition for Trump's victory.Trump voters are responsible for Trump winning. They voted for him over sixteen other Republican candidates in the primaries and caucuses, and they voted for him the general election. The "See what you made me do?!" argument does not cast off any responsibility for one's actions.
You're placing value on integrity, yet the candidate with the least amount of integrity was elected president...whom do you think would have been worse, and why?
Bingo
But Trumper's love absolving themselves of responsibility over their own actions. Apparently they were controlled or something
edit: Also, shouldn't he be thanking the not-Trumpers, using his weird logic?