Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Make a case for Vader vs Valk please
It's a bit of handwaving and powerscaling from Vader vs. Palpatine and Valkorion <<< Palpatine, so it's dependent on already having other conceptions about the relative scaling of Palpatine and Vitiate. Most of the arguments for Valkorion being more powerful though can easily be attributed to a thousand+ more years of prep + nexus + rituals and so Vader with that amount of time could probably learn and master the same powers.
I feel Nihilus shouldn't be scaled to the Ancients or Valkorion tbh. I used to champion that notion but it just doesn't work. If Ludo Kressh>Nihilus, why didn't he just TK that Sith warship that crashed on him? Even Vitiate doesn't whip out planet rendering energies whenever he wants, with Ziost he needed to cause death and chaos to build up enough energy to rend said planet. I could be wrong since I do prefer said Ancients>Nihilus, but N is a big outlier in everything.