Firestorm without a doubt, unless he weren't able to cut off Banner's connection to the gamma force, or from whatever source his power comes from. It's been believed that the Hulk draws his power from another dimension, this potentially means that he was as powerful as that entire dimension that he draws power from.
The Beyonder sensed it as well.
Arm'Cheddon had the full ability to shut off the powers of energy rich beings in a manner resembling Firestorm's ability to also do this. It was resisted by the Green Scar. He accomplished this with the Hulk when he was in his Merged persona, so it's a legitimate red flag.
Under plot, we read the story of the full potential of the Hulk. Banner has access to an infinite power source, which is what we should be focusing on, instead of the Hulk can only get this mad arguments.
This is a different Hulk that has become fully connected to the source of all of the power that he can tap into. Arm'Cheddon even exploited the Surfer leaving him bound and helpless using the exact same invasive energy manipulation tactic.
Just saying that he may resist this avenue of attack. Transmutation may never become an issue.
If that is the case, Firestorm probably could not survive the energy that this Hulk could throw around.
If Firestorm were able, then yes, the Hulk gets the salt treatment.
Originally posted by Stoic
Firestorm without a doubt, unless he weren't able to cut off Banner's connection to the gamma force, or from whatever source his power comes from. It's been believed that the Hulk draws his power from another dimension, this potentially means that he was as powerful as that entire dimension that he draws power from.The Beyonder sensed it as well.
Arm'Cheddon had the full ability to shut off the powers of energy rich beings in a manner resembling Firestorm's ability to also do this. It was resisted by the Green Scar. He accomplished this with the Hulk when he was in his Merged persona, so it's a legitimate red flag.
Under plot, we read the story of the full potential of the Hulk. Banner has access to an infinite power source, which is what we should be focusing on, instead of the Hulk can only get this mad arguments.
This is a different Hulk that has become fully connected to the source of all of the power that he can tap into. Arm'Cheddon even exploited the Surfer leaving him bound and helpless using the exact same invasive energy manipulation tactic.
Just saying that he may resist this avenue of attack. Transmutation may never become an issue.
If that is the case, Firestorm probably could not survive the energy that this Hulk could throw around.
If Firestorm were able, then yes, the Hulk gets the salt treatment.
You do know this FS was going to destroy the entire universe, right? His power was Big Bang worthy.
He can and probably will get beaten, tbh. But not by energy overload.
Originally posted by Galan007
You know, it almost makes me proud that the 'Salt-Transmutation-Defense'(aka. "STD"😉 is still a thing... Brings a tear to my eye. 👆...But on a serious note: first Jason converts all of Hulk's gamma radiation into, say, harmless light... Then he turns him into salt. 🙂
iirc it was you that started that, wasn't it?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You do know this FS was going to destroy the entire universe, right? His power was Big Bang worthy.He can and probably will get beaten, tbh. But not by energy overload.
It wouldn't be an overload unless he was unable to take on the totality of the dimension that the Hulk was connected to, and got his power from. If he could gobble up more power than the Hulk was already fully connected to he could win, in other words he's already lost the wrestle for power battle. Arm'Cheddon lost as well, because of the Hulk's resistance to damage due to his unique physiology.
The Hulk was able to automatically ramp to planetary power levels, and beyond. It was instantaneous. Firestorm shouldn't be able to take that kind of punishment.
He seems to be more of a glass cannon at certain levels.
I read Philosophoa saying that Superman's intestines could crush Herald level beings. The Hulk in a relatively calm state resisted the Abstract known as Hope with his intestines. Hope was packing more than Trans tier power with the combined might of 133.5 Hercs. He went far beyond this when he was going at it with Betty.
Originally posted by cdtm
Can Firestorm just trap him in something indestructible?It's what I'd argue for Element Lad, who can create a substance able to survive the Big Bang, all the way up to the LoSH timeline.
If it didn't hold, and he broke out, what kind of power would Firestorm be hit with as a backlash effect?