Originally posted by Vanguard
Dood, I want people to agree. I want to start a movement. It doesn't help if its only my opinion.
What stops Spiderman from webbing Slade's feet up and using him as a wrecking ball? Outside of the Ikon suit Spidey's impact webbing would wrap him up, not to mention that he's gone at it with guys like Sandman, and several others that resemble Slade.
Originally posted by Stoic
What stops Spiderman from webbing Slade's feet up and using him as a wrecking ball? Outside of the Ikon suit Spidey's impact webbing would wrap him up, not to mention that he's gone at it with guys like Sandman, and several others that resemble Slade.
The webbing is a problem, I admit. But I'm willing to bet he can out-react/outmaneuver it. He's faster than say a Wolverine imo. He doesn't have the Ikon suit anymore. Thats why I didn't use that in my argument. Id like to see him fight Spiderman without it.
Besides I've seen him slice a net in half, that was shot at him from a distance, before it could envelop him.
Zack Spiderman is out of Slade's weight class. No matter the armor, those webs would hold him. If he went web crazy on him, Slade would be helplessly pinned. Taking a beating isn't the same as winning a fight, so like I said, if Spidey webbed his feet up and used him as a wrecking ball, he'd eventually KO him. This is a completely different strength range. agility range, and Spidey is a precog.
Originally posted by Stoic
Zack Spiderman is out of Slade's weight class. No matter the armor, those webs would hold him. If he went web crazy on him, Slade would be helplessly pinned. Taking a beating isn't the same as winning a fight, so like I said, if Spidey webbed his feet up and used him as a wrecking ball, he'd eventually KO him. This is a completely different strength range. agility range, and Spidey is a precog.
You'd like to believe Spiderman is out of Slade's weight class. Spiderman doesn't fight that way. He doesn't go to extremes. Slade does. Slade has gone up against and defeated the likes of Black Manta, Aquaman, Superman, Wonder Woman, the Teen Titans, Green Lantern Hal Jordan, a Lobo Clone, Flash....etc
He was a team buster in his inception. He is IN Spidermans league.
Originally posted by Stoic
Can Slade pick up a train car unaided by armor of any type? Spidey has beaten the FF, and the X-Men sans prep. Slade preps, which is his biggest weapon against his opponents. It's a gimmick, without the gimmick he isn't in Spidey's weight class, he''s in the Black Panther's weight class... Maybe?
Slade has never needed to pick up a train car. It goes against his principles. He doesn't believe in collateral damage. And here, I should have added that he has armor, just not the Ikon suit.
Every comic character has a "gimmick." Spiderman is a living, breathing, walking gimmick.
Slade uses prep sometimes, yes. And he's great at it, one of the best. But like I said, its been stated that his brain works under optimal ability under stress and fatigue. He knows your movements (read the scan in the op). So even when he hasn't prepared, it will seem as though he has.
Marvel does a great job of delineating a characters powers. DC has never really done that for Slade. I think you're getting caught up in the numbers. If DC would delineate Slades attributes, you'd be surprised.
Originally posted by Vanguard
Slade has never needed to pick up a train car. It goes against his principles. He doesn't believe in collateral damage. And here, I should have added that he has armor, just not the Ikon suit.Every comic character has a "gimmick." Spiderman is a living, breathing, walking gimmick.
Slade uses prep sometimes, yes. And he's great at it, one of the best. But like I said, its been stated that his brain works under optimal ability under stress and fatigue. He knows your movements (read the scan in the op). So even when he hasn't prepared, it will seem as though he has.
Marvel does a great job of delineating a characters powers. DC has never really done that for Slade. I think you're getting caught up in the numbers. If DC would delineate Slades attributes, you'd be surprised.
but he wouldn't have the gimmick in a forum match up against Spiderman. Therefore he loses the gimmick. When I use the term weight class, I'm talking about strength. Slade is closer to Black Panther's level. Not Spiderman's. Pay close attention to Riv's statement on the subject.
Originally posted by Stoic
Zack Spiderman is out of Slade's weight class. No matter the armor, those webs would hold him. If he went web crazy on him, Slade would be helplessly pinned. Taking a beating isn't the same as winning a fight, so like I said, if Spidey webbed his feet up and used him as a wrecking ball, he'd eventually KO him. This is a completely different strength range. agility range, and Spidey is a precog.
Slade has gear that can destroy the webs.
Originally posted by Stoic
but he wouldn't have the gimmick in a forum match up against Spiderman. Therefore he loses the gimmick. When I use the term weight class, I'm talking about strength. Slade is closer to Black Panther's level. Not Spiderman's. Pay close attention to Riv's statement on the subject.
He would have it in a matchup against Spiderman. It's his power. It's a part of him. It's no different than Spidermans webbing. I understand that you were talking about strength when you said weight class. And yes he would be closer to Panther than Spiderman physically.