EoTPM Sidious vs. RotS Yoda

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EoTPM Sidious vs. RotS Yoda

Who wins

1. Force
2. Sabers
3. All-out

Yoda 🙂

Yoda in all

Yoda, an gewd fight.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Yoda, an gewd fight.

wtf is this?

yeah whats the Eo stand for??

End of.

Yoda

nah, Sidious was the power shift that he felt at the end of Plaguies; he became the sole entity of the Dark Side, Yoda would be blindsided by Sidious at this time. Remember; by the time Yoda got to face Sidious; he was ready for him and had had three years of fights under his belt to get his skills bumped up.

Your point? This is RotS Yoda, not TPM Yoda.

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Your point? This is RotS Yoda, not TPM Yoda.

ah yes, my mistake. Still, Sidious as far as we know didn't get any boosts post Plagueis' demise so it stands to reason that his power level would be similar post TPM to his power in ROTS so i still say Sidious wins, provided the fight is on neutral ground.

Yoda was for all purposes an equal for ROTS Sids, he would beat TPM Sids

Sidious post Plaguis is arguably equal to his ROTS counterpart too

I mean, EoTPM Sidious is basically RotS Sidious, all things considered. It could believably go either way.

all things considered Sidious would destroy Yoda on neutral ground

Originally posted by relentless1
Sidious post Plaguis is arguably equal to his ROTS counterpart too

I mean, EoTPM Sidious is basically RotS Sidious, all things considered. It could believably go either way.

Nope. It's explicitly stated Sidious grew in power in between AOTC and ROTS let alone TPM and ROTS:
Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting.

Source: The Complete Visual Dictionary


Yoda's close enough to Sidious that the movie, script(two highest sources) and junior novel all show their force battle end in a stalemate.

The primary sources which show Sidious decisively winning
A. Aren't as authoritative as the movie and script
B. Blatantly contradict the movie's version of events throughout

So while you could use the other sources to argue Sidious has an edge, it would be a negligible difference.

In order to argue that TPM Sids is as close as Yoda, you'd need to argue that his growth over the course of more than ten years was of an equally small margin.

Good luck with that.

Why are you using a Canon source in a Legends debate?

The complete visual dictionary is canon? I was under the impression it was a legends sourcebook

It was a movie saga only collection of the Star Wars Visual Dictionaries and was re-released in 2012 and 2016, with TFA added in the latest edition rebranded under Disney.