Asgardians vs. the MCU

Hela has been able to convince Loki and Thor to join her cause. They decide to conquer the 9 realms starting with Earth. The three Odinspawn siblings arrive on Earth together with Sif, Valkyrie, the Warriors 3, Skure and the Destroyer. All of them are in standard gear and at full power (Thor has Mjolnir, Loki has Gungir). Heimdall stayed behind to operate the bifrost.

Earth sends every single earth-bound MCU hero to fight the Asgardians. Dr. Strange uses the time-gem to go back in time and save deceased heroes from dying (like the Ancient One and Quicksilver, etc.) so they can join the fight... but this leaves the time-gem out of power and cannot be used in the fight itself. The GoTG were also vacationing on Earth when this happened and get involved in the fight against the Asgardians.

Only earth-bound heroes and anti-heroes join in the fight (plus the GoTG), no villains or extra-terrestrial/extra-dimensional beings. The MCU heroes are all armed in standard gear.

Dr. Strange and the Ancient one can use portals to teleport people around but the Asgardians can also ask Heimdall to teleport them around.

Can the combined might of the MCU's Earth heroes stop the Asgardian strike team?

Hela is practically invincible .... while on Asgard. We have no durability feats for her anywhere else to judge what would be needed to kill her.

Destroyer could be a problem. Luckily it's not the comic book destoyer which is, again, practically invincible. Thor managed to bust it up, so a combo of ＭCU heavy hitters (Hulk, Vision, Iron Man) should be able to replicate said feat.

Doc Strange and the Ancient one would cause no end of problems for the Asgardians.

The rest of Team Asgard are just foot soldiers, should't be a problem for most basic superheroes.

If Quicksilver manages to get his hands on an Asgardian sword, some of them are in for a short visit. Because he can generate enough force while running to plow through a dozen Ultron bots and shatter them to pieces, without missing a beat. So, that kind of momentum behind an Asgardian blade would do some damage. Now, Thor and Hela have both shown the ability to soak up stab wounds and keep fighting, but people like the Warriors Three and Sif have not.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Hela is practically invincible .... while on Asgard. We have no durability feats for her anywhere else to judge what would be needed to kill her.

Destroyer could be a problem. Luckily it's not the comic book destoyer which is, again, practically invincible. Thor managed to bust it up, so a combo of ＭCU heavy hitters (Hulk, Vision, Iron Man) should be able to replicate said feat.

Doc Strange and the Ancient one would cause no end of problems for the Asgardians.

The rest of Team Asgard are just foot soldiers, should't be a problem for most basic superheroes.

Yeah but Asgards foot soldiers are physically stronger than Cap.

MCU team wins.

As someone said before, Hela's feats arent the same as on Asgard. So her feats shouldnt be considered for this thread.

Hela's strength is derived from Asgard, she doesn't need to be on Asgard.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
If Quicksilver manages to get his hands on an Asgardian sword, some of them are in for a short visit. Because he can generate enough force while running to plow through a dozen Ultron bots and shatter them to pieces, without missing a beat. So, that kind of momentum behind an Asgardian blade would do some damage. Now, Thor and Hela have both shown the ability to soak up stab wounds and keep fighting, but people like the Warriors Three and Sif have not.

IIRC, Black Widow had no issues manhandling an Ultronbot either.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Yeah but Asgards foot soldiers are physically stronger than Cap.

Originally posted by FrothByte
IIRC, Black Widow had no issues manhandling an Ultronbot either.

Are you trying to compare Black Widow using her gear (guns, electrical batons and, at one point, Cap's shield) to take Ultron bots down one at a time to Pietro literally smashing groups of them to bits with individual charges? Unless there is some instance where she physically manhandles an actual Ultron bot and smashes it to bits with nothing but her bare hands that I missed.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Hela's strength is derived from Asgard, she doesn't need to be on Asgard.

No, that's the very reason why Thor didn't want the portal to be opened. On Asgard Hela gets way way way stronger than outside Asgard.

Her best strength feat is outside of Asgard though

I think this battle boils down to if Hulk and the "street-level" MCU'ers (Cap, T'Challa, Bucky, Falcon, Spider, etc.) can hold off the Hela, Thor, and the Destroyer long enough for Strange, Tony, Ancient One, Rocket, Ant-Man, and Vision can cook some kind of techno-magical strategy to stop the Asgardians. Otherwise, QS doing what Vault said above (grabbing an Asgardian sword to try to mince up the crew) is the best bet if he can run around and keep clear of stuff like Hela's sword-spamming and Thor's AoE attacks till an opening appears.

Team Asgard has a simpler approach, and it's why I give them the win: Hela sends boatloads of flying swords at everyone, Destroyer blasts people, and Thor goes in for his electric shield powered beatdowns.

So Asgard has a straightforward impale/incinerate/beat up everyone to death strategy, while hax is the way to go for MCU, specifically Vision and QS.

Can Iron Man, Falcon, and War Machine do anything from the skies (Jericho missile bombardment, for example)? Could Ant-Man do anything to the Asgardians or the Destroyer by hopping into an ear or something?

Actually, one of the best battle plans for Team MCU is have Strange or AO get a portal open to the Bifrost and send whoever through to take down Heimdall, if possible.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Her best strength feat is outside of Asgard though

Destroying Mjolnir one handed is impressive, but ain't her best feat.

Still, you could only argue that she is very strong outside Asgard, you can't really say how fast/durable/magical she is outside her home.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No, that's the very reason why Thor didn't want the portal to be opened. On Asgard Hela gets way way way stronger than outside Asgard.

Hela was imprisoned and away from Asgard for thousands and thousands of years and yet she was still strong enough to crush Mjolnir. I'm pretty sure after gaining full strength in Asgard, a few weeks on Earth won't make such a dent in her strength level.

In any case, debating whether Hela is as strong or not won't go anywhere since we have no feats to compare. So assume that she's as strong as she was in the movies (which only makes sense otherwise she'd never be able to conquer other realms away from Asgard).

Originally posted by FrothByte
Hela was imprisoned and away from Asgard for thousands and thousands of years and yet she was still strong enough to crush Mjolnir. I'm pretty sure after gaining full strength in Asgard, a few weeks on Earth won't make such a dent in her strength level.

In any case, debating whether Hela is as strong or not won't go anywhere since we have no feats to compare. So assume that she's as strong as she was in the movies (which only makes sense otherwise she'd never be able to conquer other realms away from Asgard).

Yeah but you don't really know how Hela gets affected by Asgard.

For instance, on Asgard we saw Hela summoning unending amounds of daggers. Damn it, even against Surtur, Hela was able to summon ENORMOUS knives like if they were butterflies.

Now, Asgard is a magical place, it's possible that Asgard is like a battery that feeds Hela's magic.

Now, she was exiled, doesn't mean she was full powered or all powerful in her exile.

Again, you can't really use Hela's feats in this match, since the fight aint taking place on Asgard.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yeah but you don't really know how Hela gets affected by Asgard.

For instance, on Asgard we saw Hela summoning unending amounds of daggers. Damn it, even against Surtur, Hela was able to summon ENORMOUS knives like if they were butterflies.

Now, Asgard is a magical place, it's possible that Asgard is like a battery that feeds Hela's magic.

Now, she was exiled, doesn't mean she was full powered or all powerful in her exile.

Again, you can't really use Hela's feats in this match, since the fight aint taking place on Asgard.

Yet there was never any proof that she was weakened outside Asgard. So you can't say that we can't use her feats. It would be completely illogical to assume that Hela is powerless outside Asgard.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yet there was never any proof that she was weakened outside Asgard. So you can't say that we can't use her feats. It would be completely illogical to assume that Hela is powerless outside Asgard.

...............Maybe because we never saw her outside
Asgard............

1. Odin himself said that she got her power from Asgard.
2. Thor himself told Loki not to open the portal to Asgard.
3. Hela herself claimed she felt better when she was on Asgard.

The movie was way clear to point out that Hela on Asgard>>>>>>Normal Hela.

So again, the only feats viable here is Hela outside Asgard.

She conquered the cosmos with Odin, so it's safe to say she's powerful outside of Asgard. Just because her power comes from it, doesn't mean she needs to be in it. There's nothing to suggest that. Her claiming to feel better could easily be interpreted as her meaning it felt good to be back home after being trapped in another dimension for a couple thousand years. That's definitely what I took it as.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
She conquered the cosmos with Odin, so it's safe to say she's powerful outside of Asgard. Just because her power comes from it, doesn't mean she needs to be in it. There's nothing to suggest that. Her claiming to feel better could easily be interpreted as her meaning it felt good to be back home after being trapped in another dimension for a couple thousand years. That's definitely what I took it as.

I never said Hela wasn't powerful. Am saying you can't use Hela's feats on Asgard in this fight because the fight ain't happening on Asgard.

Again, the movie was way clear to point out that Hela on Asgard>>>>Hela anywhere else.