Rank TOR-era duelists in sabers

1. The Outlander
2. Revan
3. Adelade / Commander Tassar
4. Adelade / Commander Tassar
5. Darth Malgus
6. The Empire's Wrath
7. Commander Jensyn / Darth Soverus
8. Commander Jensyn / Darth Soverus
9. Arcann
10. Senya
11. Vaylin

All worse than Obi-Wan.

Forgot to include Scout Captain Sterla, but who cares?

note: I have him below Malgus, but above the 2nd Wrath.

Good thread. I'll have to think about it.

(Obi Wan)
Revan
The Outlander
Arcann
etc.

Arcann beat SoR Outlander with the Force; not thanks to lightsaber skill. That's why I ranked him below the Wrath.

The Outlander and Arcann are probably the top two.

Its difficult to judge the Force using classes now that they've been amalgimated into the Outlander and all have the same showings, but for what its worth my opinion not taking KotFE into account is:

1. Hero
2. Wrath
3. Nox
4. 'Thor

Nox gets a big boost by the class description saying they're as skilled with a lightsaber as they are with the Force.

May I see the quote? That makes sabers a bigger factor in the PT than I initially thought.

Originally posted by Geistalt
1. The Outlander shit
2. Revanshit
3. Adelade / Commander Tassar shit
4. Adelade / Commander Tassar shit
5. Darth Malgus shit
6. The Empire's Wrath shit
7. Commander Jensyn / Darth Soverus shit
8. Commander Jensyn / Darth Soverus shit
9. Arcann shit
10. Senya shit
11. Vaylin shit

All worse than Obi-Wan. correct

Originally posted by Geistalt
May I see the quote? That makes sabers a bigger factor in the PT than I initially thought.

http://www.swtor.com/info/holonet/classes/sith-inquisitor

"An Inquisitor's skills with a Lightsaber are equally impressive."

Considers how skilled Nox is with the Force (able to easily perform feats that are supposed to be near impossible) that indicates an extreme degree of lightsaber skills. Naturally you can scale the rest of the era from this as well.

I love that that's the deepest, most refined thought ILS could post.

@Nephthys: It just says an Inquisitor's skills with a lightsaber are equally impressive.

It's a statement about Inquisitors in general.

Nox is an Inquisitor tho. :I

Plus it's a description about the class, but the class is actually Nox. Everyone playing Inquisitor is playing Nox. The statement applies in either case.

maul dies, he barely beat pre vizsla, couldnt beat obi wan with savages help, and lost to dogs

Originally posted by Geistalt
All worse than Obi-Wan.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Nox is an Inquisitor tho. :I

Plus it's a description about the class, but the class is actually Nox.

Both wrong. Sith Inquisitors are a profession that existed at the time in the Sith Order, and Nox wasn’t one since leaving Korriban. Class progression cutscenes were canon storylines that outright stated you couldn’t progress down both paths...

An advanced class doesn't make them stop also being an Inquisitor. Swtore keeps referring to Nox as "the inquisitor" right up to the Thanaton fight.

So does that mean my Sith Sorcerer is a better duelist than my Sith Assassin because she has more impressive force powers?

They're equal in both aspects. They're just different in their combat style and abilities.

Originally posted by Nephthys
An advanced class doesn't make them stop also being an Inquisitor. Swtore keeps referring to Nox as "the inquisitor" right up to the Thanaton fight.

Yes, as a class story. Doesn’t stop the fact the in universe quote is referring to a Sith title that Nox no longer has, and no longer trains to be.

Think of it this way, even if she continues having the lightsaber mastery of an Inquisitor, and trains as such, her force mastery would excel under either specialisation path and advance further than her skill with a blade. It’s pretty basic 😬

Originally posted by Selenial
Yes, as a class story. Doesn’t stop the fact the in universe quote is referring to a Sith title that Nox no longer has, and no longer trains to be.

Think of it this way, even if she continues having the lightsaber mastery of an Inquisitor, and trains as such, her force mastery would excel under either specialisation path and advance further than her skill with a blade. It’s pretty basic 😬

Sorcerers and Assassins are subsets of an Inquisitor, you don't have to be one or the other exclusively. The KotFE codex entry refers to them as "The Sith Inquisitor" if you want an OOU source. Not that I see why that matters, as if Swtore would know secrets about Vitiate yet mess up the basics of how being a Sith works. I'm pretty the rest of the game also refers to you as the Inquisitor in the loading screens, other parts of the codex and such too.

Apparently not the case. Too bad.