Freedon Nadd
Senior Member
Originally posted by DarthPlaguis12
Darth maul was never a true apprentice...he was just an acolyte, Dooku had many. As the other poster mentioned.
I am pretty sure Maul was more than an acolyte at that time. Plagueis deemed him an 'acolyte', not so sure about Palpatine. If we follow strictly that logic: then Vader wouldn't be a Sith Lord either or Dooku. Since all of them were mere tools to Palpatine.
The rule of two was meant to keep the Sith a secret so they could take over the Galaxy via cunning, many were merchants etc like Darth Plaguis who created strife throughout the Galaxy as well as sidious who manipulated things via politics. I believe bane was a merchant who created several connections and became very rich.
Yes. This is a point I brought up tooo.
The rule of two was made to mold strong sith. In Banes time they weren't exactly that powerful and Bane became a lot more powerful then most of them after studying the teachings of Darth Revan. The Sith at this time had given up studying the old ways. As the other poster mentioned Bane taught Zannah everything but as time went on he thought she may not be strong enough to beat him.
There is clearly a confusion here. Bane wanted cunning and knowledgeable Sith. That's what he understood through power.
It doesn't matter what he thought, though. He should have killed Zannah the moment he knew she was weak. But somehow he didn't do that.
He found the secret to essence transfer just in case he needed to live on...he also found a character called the huntress who was to replace Zannah if he she indeed proved too weak, when he finally did meet Zannah to duel her the winner would then get the huntress as their new apprentice, she later went on to become Darth Cogness.
His own rule clearly states only two should be there: no more, no less. It doesn't matter if he thought Zannah was weak or not. He should have challenged her before taking another apprentice.
Unknown to bane Zannah did learn new Sith techniques that destroyed his body and he had to try transferring his spirit.
Yes, she was weak in the end. Bane kicked her ass. And she had to use Ambria's nexus to defeat him.
Basically the Sith would become stronger or stay strong via this rule of two...the master would only fall to a strong enough student. Sometimes this came about via the student being stronger like Zannah, other times it happened through cunning like sidious outsmarting Plaguis
Yes, stronger as in more knowledgeable. Not Force-stronger.
Aforementioned, Zannah was clearly weaker in the Force, that's why he resorted to using Ambria's power to defeat her master.
We have no idea why Cognus chose Millennial. But we do know that Millennial defied the Rule of Two. So most of Rule of Two context is fogged. But much we know that Banite Sith promoted cunning and backstabbing not facing your master in fight.
"For the last time I call you apprentice and I applaud your skillful use of surprise and misdirection. Perhaps I was wrong to think you had no stomach for it." ―Rugess Nome to his Sith apprentice, Darth Plagueis
"We Sith are an unseen opposition. A phantom menace. Where the Sith once wore armor, we now wear cloaks. But the Force works through us all the more powerfully in our invisibility." ―Darth Tenebrous to a young Darth Plagueis
The other poster explained this pretty well...
1. The poster explained the RoT didn't produce Sith Lords more powerful in the Force, but with greater knowledge and were able to overthrow the Republic from within via Palpatine.
2. By the time when Palpatine did overthrow the Republic: he had already abandoned Bane's Rule of Two.
So, you could say: in theory, that Bane's Rule of Two did bring, indirectly, the destruction of the Jedi Order but not the conquest of the galaxy.