Originally posted by abhilegend
Only its core had not exploded and it was about to explode within minutes.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That was just her hallucination. Nothing more.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusThis question is hilarious, given how obvious it is for anybody reading the comics.
Why is Superman/Wonder Woman no longer canon to Zod?
Besides the fact that Superman and WW's relationship stories are out of continuity? The current version of Zod has Ursa as a wife and a kid, with Faora literally retconned out of continuity, making that story impossible:
In the WW story, Superman and Zod meet for the first time, and it's Zod's first time entering the DCU. That has been taken out of continuity by Superman Reborn, in which it's made clear that the post-crisis version of Zod is now the canon one. Superman takes him to the fortress of solitude in the Wonder Woman arc, but in the Superman Revenge Squad he finds out about it for the first time. etc. Dozens of things that one with even basic knowledge would know.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor's not a 5'10 shortie like yourself. If Zod tried grappling Thor, he'd get a thunderbolt up his ass, and an axe down his throat.
Damn, I really did a number on you in that talk. I even forgot about you being a pu*sy in front of your girlfriend and family. You really spend your days thinking of it, aren't you?
Which makes the fact that you're bragging about things like country of birth and height in this thread, which are out of a person's control [unless you somehow chose which c*nt your father unloaded into?], while obviously being a beta in the things that you can control, even more hilarious. The fact that I never said my height is even weirder.
You typed a lot of useless information and have yet to explain to me why it is non-canon. Inconsistencies in stories, happen literally ALL the time. Half the writers of Thor completely ignore the work of the previous one and basically write a completely different Asgard, with various stories changed.
You still haven't explained why it's non-canon? Inconsistencies =/= non-canon. Is there a panel that specifically says it's a different Zod, or a different variation?
This part: "That has been taken out of continuity by Superman Reborn, in which it's made clear that the post-crisis version of Zod is now the canon one."
Tweaks to Superman' story line, like OWAW being canon now, would make sense why Superman's history would be convoluted, but explain to me why it changes anything from Zod. From what I understand, the relationship never existed, but that just involves Superman being a c*ck wiped from continuity. At best, you are describing a fresh take on the character.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's not what the artist who drew the page said.
Thor isn't hulk who gets stronger with anger despite what your retarded fantasy tells you.What betason claimed, he did not do. Not for the first time either.
Are you seriously retarded? That issue was published in 2015. How is that related anyway?
It's only a possible future and does not relates anyway to 616 reality.
Aaron's Galactus is a ***** of the highest magnitude anyway.
It had little effect on any of these fights except betason getting emasculated.
What a surprise.
No, he would get a slash and then shove the axe up betason's ass.
It's not a game changer in any fight for last three years except against celestials.
It's going to slash Zod. That's it.
Your father should've had vasectomy. You're a waste of sperm.
I don't care what the artist said (Also, post the source for it), I am telling you, what was drawn not in ONE panel, but in TWO, WITH dialogue supporting it. He is contradicted by his OWN work and Jason Aaron's work.
Thor has multiple examples of getting angry and outperforming his previous attempts. He holds back significantly. Everyone from Luke Cage to Namor has done this.
It's a classic comic trope you mudwater drinking idiot.
Except, that it is, or was, directly canon to the 616, with Loki being able to travel from the future to the past, and Doom from the past to that exact future. On different occasions. It IS the future in the Thor comics.
It'd be disingenuous to disprove it, as it goes in-line with the previous showings of Aaron's about the axe.
What? It hurt the sh*t out of Galactus, took out Gorr, took out Apocalypse (Who, even without indestructible Celestial armor, is incredibly hard to hurt because of shape-shifting and innate durability), took out Thor and was the only thing to even scratch the Destroyer in the last 4 years aside from Mangog (That includes Freya, the Phoenix, Gladiator etc.). You are legit retarded.
It...it literally ended like 4 different fights with one clean hit of the actual blade you mongoloid.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Inconsistencies do happen all the time, true....but coming just after an event which literally changes his history?Plus, I'd say Faora not existing is a pretty big inconsistency.....
I agree, but he's saying it's non-canon. That's a pretty big leap.
There are plenty of things I'd like to argue are non-canon. The All-Mother (Idunn, Freya, Gaea) was completely retconned under Fraction compared to the last writer for example. It doesn't render any stories with the previous incarnation non-canon. Since when do we assume certain things are non-canon unless specifically stated so?
Almost 90% the writer after Aaron completely ignores everything done with Jane and does a 180 on Odin. It's a consistent pattern for the Thor comics. It doesn't change his shitty character change or make it inadmissible.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You typed a lot of useless information and have yet to explain to me why it is non-canon. Inconsistencies in stories, happen literally ALL the time.Is there a panel that specifically says it's a different Zod, or a different variation?
There's a difference between inconsistencies, and all of the plot elements being retconned out of existence. What part of Faora not being canon anymore as an actual character, and her being replaced in current continuity with Zod's wife and kid [Zod fought Superman and WW alone then? More power to him!], Superman Wonder Woman not being together [both of which were the entire focus of that storyline], Zod not meeting Superman there for the first time, Zod not being left alone in the fortress by Superman due to Clark not knowing that he is evil not happening, Zod then being retconned as ever being in the fortress [which was a massive part of the plot] etc. does not register?
You're getting stomped for your lack of knowledge. Go back in the corner, I don't have time for this.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You typed a lot of useless information and have yet to explain to me why it is non-canon. Inconsistencies in stories, happen literally ALL the time. Half the writers of Thor completely ignore the work of the previous one and basically write a completely different Asgard, with various stories changed.You still haven't explained why it's non-canon? Inconsistencies =/= non-canon. Is there a panel that specifically says it's a different Zod, or a different variation?
This part: "That has been taken out of continuity by Superman Reborn, in which it's made clear that the post-crisis version of Zod is now the canon one."
Tweaks to Superman' story line, like OWAW being canon now, would make sense why Superman's history would be convoluted, but explain to me why it changes anything from Zod. From what I understand, the relationship never existed, but that just involves Superman being a c*ck wiped from continuity. At best, you are describing a fresh take on the character.
Another question should be, what happened to Zod and Faora if they are no longer Canon. I'm talking about the Zod that fought Superman "before" the rebirth.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So if Faora doesn't exist.....how did the fight between WW/Supes/Faora/Zod go down?
That's the question.
We know events still happened. We also know details changed, like Superboys existence.
I'm inclined to believe Ursa merely replaces Faora, but who really knows?
Zods kid has no reason to hate on Supes in the original version, that's for sure. (And didn't he die? He was Nightwing, or Nightbird or something.)
Originally posted by cdtm
That's the question.We know events still happened. We also know details changed, like Superboys existence.
I'm inclined to believe Ursa merely replaces Faora, but who really knows?
Zods kid has no reason to hate on Supes in the original version, that's for sure. (And didn't he die? He was Nightwing, or Nightbird or something.)
The Superman/WW storyline couldn't have happened, for all the reasons I stated, and more. I didn't even get into the fact that Brian Azzarello's run has been retconned out of existence, so Apollo also isn't present in that story...
He was, and he grew up, he wasn't a kid. Apparently that part of post-Crisis continuity is no longer canon either. And it's only natural, since Jon has been his sole kid for most of the current continuity.
Originally posted by cdtm
That's the question.We know events still happened. We also know details changed, like Superboys existence.
I'm inclined to believe Ursa merely replaces Faora, but who really knows?
Zods kid has no reason to hate on Supes in the original version, that's for sure. (And didn't he die? He was Nightwing, or Nightbird or something.)
That's Dick Grayson, noob.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's Dick Grayson, noob.
Different Nightwing, Carver-bait. 😛
Originally posted by cdtm
Different Nightwing, Carver-bait. 😛
Not clicking on that link, I bet it's full of misinformation 👆
Originally posted by Philosophía
There's a difference between inconsistencies, and all of the plot elements being retconned out of existence. What part of Faora not being canon anymore as an actual character, and her being replaced in current continuity with Zod's wife and kid [Zod fought Superman and WW alone then? More power to him!], Superman Wonder Woman not being together [both of which were the entire focus of that storyline], Zod not meeting Superman there for the first time, Zod not being left alone in the fortress by Superman due to Clark not knowing that he is evil not happening, Zod then being retconned as ever being in the fortress [which was a massive part of the plot] etc. does not register?You're getting stomped for your lack of knowledge. Go back in the corner, I don't have time for this.
You haven't answered my questions.
Nothing you have posted indicates specifically that these events DID NOT happen, or that they happened in a completely DIFFERENT way. Ergo, they are still very much canon.
I don't know why your dumbass thinks complicating the matters and ignoring the showing is justifiable by inconsistencies. Comics play to the lowest common denominator. There isn't some secret retcon that has never been mentioned but should be obvious to the people who have read every single issue and no one else.
If this was intended to be the real Zod, and a completely different being from the past one, it would have been made abundantly clear. Wonder Woman's mythos is going through a complete revamp, the past is still canon.
Why are you so dumb?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So if Faora doesn't exist.....how did the fight between WW/Supes/Faora/Zod go down?
Flip Faora for Ursa, does it really change anything? Not really. They hardly have established and well known traits that would distinguish them.
You can use this logic for so many other showings but no one does. It always does seem to pop up in Superman threads though.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus👆
You haven't answered my questions.Nothing you have posted indicates specifically that these events DID NOT happen, or that they happened in a completely DIFFERENT way. Ergo, they are still very much canon.
I don't know why your dumbass thinks complicating the matters and ignoring the showing is justifiable by inconsistencies. Comics play to the lowest common denominator. There isn't some secret retcon that has never been mentioned but should be obvious to the people who have read every single issue and no one else.
If this was intended to be the real Zod, and a completely different being from the past one, it would have been made abundantly clear. Wonder Woman's mythos is going through a complete revamp, the past is still canon.
Why are you so dumb?
