Originally posted by abhilegendlol you're hilarious. Anyways, Surfer steamrolls guys like Superman and Hal when he's serious. They are on completely different tiers (strength means very little here, and Norrin is more durable anyways). Come back when Superman or Hal has better consistent feats than SS. Not counting PIS or outliers.
Superman would beat Surfer even more easily than he does to Hal.Let me guess, you're from comicvine and Superman being only a "moon buster" somehow means he is weaker than Surfer, right?
Why would Hal needs any amp to beat Surfer?