Revan, Exar Kun and the Outlander vs. Cade Skywalker, Jaina and Kenobi (sabers only)

Originally posted by Farticus_Rex
Starkiller's power was ''no match'' for the Emperor's. I think TFU Sidious is definitely above Yoda as a Force wielder, but to that agree? Not to appeal to incredulity, but probably not. Feat-only reasoning is hardly be-all and end-all.

I agree that Force power affects lightsaber combat by principle, but the extent is arguable and perhaps even contextual. I've considered writing a more comprehensive note on it, but I haven't gotten around to it yet.

The gap between Sidious and Yoda, was pretty small force wise tbh, at the time of that duel.

Originally posted by Haschwalth
So you pretty much agree, It's like with Valkorian, he would get schooled with a light saber, by say Revan, but his force abilities are what gives him the edge in battle.

Right.... But we are talking about saber only fights. All-out is a different matter all-together.

Originally posted by Haschwalth
1.the user must have shown proficiency in Physical amplification/using a lightsaber, in consistence cases.

2.The user Must have a Greater raw power, with the force. Than his opponent.

for him to defeat, the say more skilled user.