Originally posted by One Big Mob
Maybe the punches.Massive all encompassing blasts and just blowing him up outright are a different story.
Thanos did seem to react to Norrin Radd's all or nothing charge. (And it pains me to admit that, because I know it's going to bite me the next time he takes on Superman. 😛 )
If he can do that, I'd need pretty solid evidence Goku (Or Jiren, or the fastest he's dodged) is above Surfer's speed level.
Originally posted by cdtmHis sensory input was retarded. Much like when Carver enters a Jiren thread. Great, maybe the best poster on the site normally, but the second he enters a Jiren thread...
Thanos did seem to react to Norrin Radd's all or nothing charge. (And it pains me to admit that, because I know it's going to bite me the next time he takes on Superman. 😛 )If he can do that, I'd need pretty solid evidence Goku (Or Jiren, or the fastest he's dodged) is above Surfer's speed level.
Idk, while the depth of power held by the IG is much greater than Jiren's, Jiren is also at a scope comparable to the IG.
Both shook infinite dimensions with a mere showing of power, and the IG clearly has limits, as it's been shown before.
My point is that simply saying "IG is limitless" isn't an argument, when it has been overpowered by Emperor God Doom, Mistress Death, the HOTU, etc.
Given these are all beings you could place above Jiren, my point is simply that the IG is not as limitless as some are wanking it to be.