Let's say T'Challa agreed on conquering the world. How would he fare?
For some reason T'Challa teams up with Killmonger to conquer the world.
How would he fare?
R1: Just the world's armies (USA, Rusia, etc). Shield technology included too.
R2: Meta Humans Involved: Guys like Luke Cage, Daredevil, Daisy, etc.
R3. The Avangers interfere (Avangers 1).
Without Pis/Cis, he does it casually.
Remember in the movie, In was mentioned that Wakanda has spies all over the World, and every form of governments.
Hell, Panther doesn’t even need to fire a bullet, just let his spies start discord from within. Then make up fake videos of their enemies attacking each other.
He makes it to Round 3 without too much hassle. Hulk and Thor are serious obstacles though that he may not be able to overcome. Unless they just spam those spear blasters. According to Killmonger a single one had enough power to destroy a tank and they had "thousands of em'". If a barrage from some chitauri flyers had Hulk on the defensive, a bunch of tank killing energy blasts from a few dozen Wakandans would do some serious damage imo. Same goes for Thor.
Originally posted by Blindside12
Worlds armies would be enough, nothing Wakanda has suggests they can withstand nukes.
Nothing suggest the world armies can even find Wakanda. Because up until the events of Black Panther, literally, the entire world thought it was a third world nation of farmers and textilers. Not the most advanced country on the planet with tech decades if not at least a century beyond what we see from the rest of the world.
Also like it was pointed out, Wakanda has multiple spies in every country and every government. He does not have to go guns blazing to win, but he'd still win if he went guns blazing because they have overwhelming tech, overwhelming firepower, and most importantly, complete safety as they are 100% hidden from the world.
Originally posted by Blindside12
SO your saying shield has no idea about wakanda, what it does, where it is, or about its vibranium?
That's exactly what I'm saying. During the Sokovia talks, no one knew King T'Chaka was Black Panther, or that T'Challa was going to succeed him. No one even knew T'Challa was in the suit when he chased Bucky down. If SHIELD knew about the Vibranium and how valuable it was, they would've at least approached Wakanda to try and make a deal. Instead they just left a literal mountain of the most valuable and powerful metal on Earth right where it is?
Up until the end of Black Panther, even though the world knew Wakanda was a place, they had no idea about the tech until T'Challa allowed the science programs and such to start. Because Agent Ross, a high ranking CIA operative had no idea what Wakanda really was until he woke up on a recovery table surrounded by tech and Vibranium.
Originally posted by Blindside12
Also, Bucky and Captain America both know where Wakanda is.
Okay? So? Bucky's been a HYDRA assassin for a couple decades, and Cap has quit SHIELD and the Avengers at this point as he went rogue. Neither of them work for the armies/government. And T'Challa brought them to Wakanda himself. They didn't just find it. So what's your point? And plenty of people know where Wakanda is. They just don't know the real Wakanda is behind an invisible force dome.
Originally posted by SquallX
Without Pis/Cis, he does it casually.Remember in the movie, In was mentioned that Wakanda has spies all over the World, and every form of governments.
Hell, Panther doesn’t even need to fire a bullet, just let his spies start discord from within. Then make up fake videos of their enemies attacking each other.
Talked about spies, with zero feats to suggest anything that could cause the world to collapse.
Originally posted by Blindside12
And Cap would'nt come back to defend the world from a Wakanda takeover? If you say no, then you dont know who Rogers is.Btw, you are way to into this.
Well during Round 3 when the Avengers are allowed, then yeah Cap can show up. Until then though in Round 1 and 2 where he's not at, then he has nothing to do with this. As SHIELD/Avengers were beholden to no government and were basically charged with keeping the world safe from anything the regular gov/armies couldn't. And they had basically unlimited authority until the Sokovia Accords.
Not too into it. Just debating you and showing why you're wrong.
Originally posted by Blindside12
I'm not wrong, your assuming no one would ever find out where Wakanda is while they are waging war on the world, that's preposterous thinking.
Okay. So the country with multiple spies in every country and every government in the world. Who has convinced the entire world they are a third world nation of farmers and textilers. Who have a massive city hidden by an invisible force field that has been there for at least several hundred years as no one has ever flown over Africa and seen the city of Wakanda, so it had to have been active since the rest of the world got intercontinental air travel. However Shuri said they were extremely beyond anything else on the world so that's not too farfetched.
What you're suggesting is that a Warrior-King trained in tactics, war, diplomacy, strategy, etc... for his entire life is going to let the kingdom that's been hidden for thousands of years suddenly be discovered? You're actually dead wrong if you think they'll be discovered when it hasn't happened yet specifically because of how careful they are.
You realize every ship has stealth tech right? Invisible ships flying out of an invisible dome and unlimited range. They could stealth bomb every major nation and no one would know what the hell happened.