Originally posted by deathslash
😬 by the time he was grand master, Luke had learned everything that he could regarding the force. He was trained by some of the most skilled and knowledgeable force users ever, had access to the spirits of the Jedi that had become one with the force, and had even been trained by Sidious. Even assuming that Luke couldn't use those powers, he can still achieve the same effect as using a force storm by using fold space.Luke caught Tadar'Ro's eye and smiled a little. Then, before Ben knew what was happening, there was a sharp pop of displaced air. The Vor'cha stick simply vanished from his hands to reappear in his father's. He gaped for a second, and then realized that while he had been studying so hard to learn flow-walking, Luke had readily mastered the other known Aing-Tii Force technique. He laughed a little as Luke tossed the stick back to his son.
Taken from: Fate of the Jedi : Omen
we dont assume he can until he does.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Are light sabers in the comics really OP? You think they'd slice up Herc?
I think they could, yes. Maybe not OHK, like how diamond is tougher than metal, but you'd need a ton of force to cut through a steel beam with, say, a diamond sword. But yeah, I think everyone would need to be careful around the sabers, including Herc.
Originally posted by Sin I AMIce Golems? Well in that case I see no reason why Clark Radd would lose.
no....i cant even recall any of the mentioned using a force storm or dark transferread more comics...he can as he has recently frozen light speed, frozen someone from inside out and created sentinal sized golems that work independently of him
Originally posted by deathslash
👇 Titans are trash and would die like trash. Deadpool also dies very easily.
Lol, Raven or Starfire alone could potentially take this. Starfire is FTL, and capable of overpowering the likes of Superboy, no-selling WonderGirl, and doing battle with both Wonder Woman AND Superman himself. Raven has similar feats, including being able to overpower the likes of Trigon, as white Raven. That's more impressive than even Grandmaster Luke's greatest feats. Trigon >>>>>>>> Abeloth, and Abeloth was over 10X more powerful than Luke.
Not to mention that the Teen Titans as a team managed to take out Superboy Prime. Given the entire team and some more were present, that's still a helluva feat for their team work. SBP could vaporize anyone here in less than a nano-second.
Also, how are they killing Deadpool? Lol
They're definitely not overwhelming the Titans though, regardless.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta😬 tell me about how durable their brains, lungs, and hearts are. Most of the Jedi are near relativistic in both speed and reaction. Raven is a notorious glass canon.
Lol, Raven or Starfire alone could potentially take this. Starfire is FTL, and capable of overpowering the likes of Superboy, no-selling WonderGirl, and doing battle with both Wonder Woman AND Superman himself. Raven has similar feats, including being able to overpower the likes of Trigon, as white Raven. That's more impressive than even Grandmaster Luke's greatest feats. Trigon >>>>>>>> Abeloth, and Abeloth was over 10X more powerful than Luke.Not to mention that the Teen Titans as a team managed to take out Superboy Prime. Given the entire team and some more were present, that's still a helluva feat for their team work. SBP could vaporize anyone here in less than a nano-second.
Also, how are they killing Deadpool? Lol
They're definitely not overwhelming the Titans though, regardless.
They don't need to kill Deadpool. Incapacitation works as well. Ever hear of force stasis? What about force lightning? Also, how would he be immune to having his head crushed? Is he immune to being teleported away?
Any one of them can simply lift him up and pick him apart for the KO. Or choke him unconscious.
None of them really need to be even close to their adversaries, given their senses and range, so most of the fight the opponents wouldn't even know they're being attacked.
I don't have enough knowledge about Ghost Rider to be comfortable commenting on him, but Emma/Raven would be threats, or they get to 7.
It's the problem with the force, you can't really block it, since there's no point of reference in the DC/Marvel Universe. You can approximate it with TK, but that's only as far as pertaining to its use, the actual nature of it is quite different.
I think only pure durability can really go up against it. As in, your neck can resist something that moves spaceships or whatnot.
I don't think Sue's fast enough to quick draw even one of them, before they just snap her neck [see my Maul scan!]. And there's multiple force users. And if they're out of sight, they're unaffected in their use due to their senses, while she is not.
i agree--i could see the ff working though, as easily as i could see them NOT working. since it's essentially unprovable, i guess it falls under preference. i'm also not sure one of them could snap her neck before she gets up a shield--assuming that would prevent it. she thinks as fast as telepaths in marvel, and i don't see any of the jedi out-thinking emma, or charles or any of the other major psi's.