Wonder Woman Vs Jessica Jones & Angel Dust

Started by Blindside125 pages

Originally posted by KingD19
The issue though is that every super-powered individual she fought is leagues above Colossus and Angel Dust, and despite not stomping them, she was clearly having some effect with her hits. And as Blindside pointed out, Superman is completely bulletproof. So is Steppenwolf and Doomsday. So saying, "She didn't stomp Superman, so she can't stomp AD" is just wrong.

Also even with speed equalized, Diana is far more skilled than AD and still tons stronger/more durable.

Very well said, its clearly shown that the people/beings she foughts are leauges above Angel Dust, and while not stomping them out, she by and far more then held her own with them on her own and in a group.

Originally posted by FrothByte
When has Diana ever taken on a beating from DD? She blocked most of his hits with her shield and ever only took a direct hit once. That's not a beating.

Colossus tanked an explosion big enough to collapse a tanker. The fact that AD can hurt Colossus is a pretty decent feat. What larger explosive forces has Diana tanked than that?

Angel Dust was inferior to Colossus in strength and durability.
Many hits by her did absolutely no hurt to him. The only hit that was shown to hurt was the groin hit (and arguably the first hit)
WW is stronger than her
WW is arguably more skilled than her
WW is more durable against blunt attacks than her.

WW wins.

I define a stomp as 10/10

Do you believe AD could get at least a win out of 10 fights?

Meh. I give up. It's obvious I'm not changing anyone's mind here. Since we all agree WW wins anyway it's not really worth my effort to argue how exactly she wins. Besides, people keep misinterpreting and twisting my words anyway.

Angel Dust headbutted by Wade Wilson in the oxygen-deprivation tank made Angel Dust grimace and yell as well as kicking her head back.

Wonder Woman did the same to Superman, only Supes didn't yell.

Gotta give it to ol' Diana.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Meh. I give up. It's obvious I'm not changing anyone's mind here. Since we all agree WW wins anyway it's not really worth my effort to argue how exactly she wins. Besides, people keep misinterpreting and twisting my words anyway.

So how many fights out of 10 does Angel win?

Wonder Woman destroys them. And no, Wonder Woman vs Angel dust is not a fight.
Its a complete utter effortless beatdown from Diana to Angel Dust

You know what's stupid as hell? Jessica Jones can casually (with utmost ease) crush and also break solid steel with her hands yet is not bullet proof or fully attack proof from human attacks. Her hands alone should have the durability or higher than solid steel.

Stupid writers.

Diana was stratched by a bullet early on, before she realizes her full powers. From the beat down she took, and the headbut from Superman without showing any damage, I would be surprised is she is not infact bullet proof now. Even the largest caliber bullet pales in comparison to being hit by Superman.

You guys need to realize that comic charactera even in movies tend to follow source material. Wonder Woman has never been bulletproof. She wouldnt use the bracers if she was.

There is also a difference between blunt force and piercing resistance. taking a punch without visible damage doesn't necessarily mean you can't be stabbed.

In comics there is a difference.
But in real life both are all about pressure. The reason why something cuts is because it has a sufficient amount pressure.

Pressure = Force / Area

The pressure Superman can hit with is greater than the pressure a bullet hits with.

In other words, piercing durability is highly correlated with blunt force durability.

That’s why WW comics are kind of stupid, unless it’s a magical reason why

I thought you were all about writer's intent, if she is meant to be bullet proof, why was she still blocking bullets in JL?

Originally posted by KingD19
You guys need to realize that comic charactera even in movies tend to follow source material. Wonder Woman has never been bulletproof. She wouldnt use the bracers if she was.

How can a bullet piece Diana while being hit by Superman doesn't even scratch her?

Originally posted by Blindside12
How can a bullet piece Diana while being hit by Superman doesn't even scratch her?

Ask DC, they are the ones that gave her that weakness.

Originally posted by KingD19
You guys need to realize that comic charactera even in movies tend to follow source material. Wonder Woman has never been bulletproof. She wouldnt use the bracers if she was.
Originally posted by Dreampanther

Are you saying instead of the bracers she used the also bulletproof Godly metal eagle on her costume? Which just so happens to cross her boobies?

Originally posted by Silent Master
I thought you were all about writer's intent, if she is meant to be bullet proof, why was she still blocking bullets in JL?

I’m am. She’s not bulletproof in comics. That’s why it’s stupid. Unless the explanation is a magical one.

Its only still a thing so she can keep the iconic aspect of blocking bullets with her bracelets. If it wasn't for that they'd have established her as bulletproof decades ago. WW can punch a nuke and shrug it off, its blatantly idiotic that she can be hurt by bullets.

Originally posted by h1a8
You know what's stupid as hell? Jessica Jones can casually (with utmost ease) crush and also break solid steel with her hands yet is not bullet proof or fully attack proof from human attacks. Her hands alone should have the durability or higher than solid steel.

Stupid writers.

This is exactly why most your arguments dont work.

Comic book movies are inconsistent, so in terms of feats we need to compare like for like. I.e. Lifting feats against Lifting feats, Crushing feats against crushing feats, durability feats against durability feats e.t.c.

Plus we need to powerscale them against opponents they do face.