Schumer the Clown "I wont vote for this judge because he's white."

Originally posted by Firefly218
That's just a semantics thing, you're arguing definitions. That person's definition of racism is different from yours.

You say that any discrimination based on skin color is racism, right? He says racism can only come when those in power discriminate based on skin color.

Ultimately you can at least agree that both types of racism are wrong

https://www.google.com/search?q=racism+definition&rlz=1C1PRFI_enUS766US766&oq=ra&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i57j69i61j69i60j69i61j0.2318j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

What he's suggesting isn't all that much different than trying to change the word "cat" to only mean "Lions" and expecting everyone else to go along with it.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
I know what you were trying to do and my point applies to the metaphorical as well as the literal. The media/social media would crucify anyone who would excersize said “privilege” in such a manner.

Now stop skimming and actually read what the guy I am debating with has been implying, it’s barely 1 1/2 pages back.

If so then you at least have a valid point. It's true sometimes it goes too far and many people can be extreme. But that doesn't change the fact that white privilege in America still exists.

Slowly though I think that's changing. Which is why a lot of white people who have historically benefited from the status quo are freaking out.

Originally posted by darthgoober
A black man just held the deed for 8 years...

Originally posted by Firefly218
1 black President doesn't change these sociopolitical structures that have been in place for hundreds of years. It's a step in the right direction though.

Originally posted by darthgoober
You're right it doesn't, years and years of working towards that end is what has accomplished it. A black president simply demonstrates that the our efforts have been successful. Not at stamping out racism itself of course, but making sure that the system no longer makes it impossible for a black person to achieve anything a white person can.

Originally posted by Firefly218
You think the media is overcompensating against white privilege then?

If so then you at least have a valid point. It's true sometimes it goes too far and many people can be extreme. But that doesn't change the fact that white privilege in America still exists.

Slowly though I think that's changing. Which is why a lot of white people who have historically benefited from the status quo are freaking out.

Are you gonna ever address my debate with aalya?

And your point. Power is relative. Privilege is relative. And privilege only really applies in the absence of stronger micro/macro environmental factors in a specific given scenario.

Which is in the case that I posted in my debate with aalya.

Originally posted by Firefly218
👆 We've made tons of progress no doubt. White privilege is slowly on the decline. But it seems to me that the weakening of white privilege in the mainstream has caused fringe white nationalism to take hold and that's what partially fueled Trump's campaign. Millions of fed up white people.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Are you gonna ever address my debate with aalya?

And your point. Power is relative. Privilege is relative. And privilege only really applies in the absence of stronger micro/macro environmental factors in a specific given scenario.

Which is in the case that I posted in my debate with aalya.

No, he is just going to keep spouting buzz words and talking points, it's almost all he's good for.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Actual systemic white privilege is gone. Otherwise a black man wouldn't have won the position of president over a white man. For that matter it's absence is why multiple minority groups out earn white people on average.

And I don't necessarily have a problem with the stats, what I have a problem with is that these dominantly white male Christians continue to only nominate people EXACTLY like them despite their being so many qualified minorities. It causes more racial division when only 1 skin color is in power and that is being repeatedly perpetuated with these nominations.

About the minorities earning more than white people thing. If you're referring to Asians, a lot of that is because the ones that come to America are the cream of the crop. Speaking as a child of Asian immigrants myself, only the brightest, sharpest and hardest working are able to come to America.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, he is just going to keep spouting buzz words and talking points, it's almost all he's good for.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Here's a stat, in the last couple years Congress has been 80% white, 80% male and 92% Christian. White men still own the Bar.

And I don't necessarily have a problem with the stats, what I have a problem with is that these dominantly white male Christians continue to only nominate people EXACTLY like them despite their being so many qualified minorities. It causes more racial division when only 1 skin color is in power and that is being repeatedly perpetuated with these nominations.

About the minorities earning more than white people thing. If you're referring to Asians, a lot of that is because the ones that come to America are the cream of the crop. Speaking as a child of Asian immigrants myself, only the brightest, sharpest and hardest working are able to come to America.

Not just asians, Nigerian Americans(who are black if you didn't know) on average more than whites too I believe. But you are right about the cause, it's because they're bright, sharp, and most importantly WORK HARD. They don't listen to people who tell them that tell them they need systemic advantages over white people.to overcome "white privilege" and succeed.

Here's a Nigerian American to explain it in more detail...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru4SVUlNfMY&t=1s

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah, white people are still the majority so there's going to be more of them in power. And political positions in congress are held for long periods of time, you've just got to wait for more of the incumbents to die off and/or retire. The balance will happen organically without forcing it, and it'll happen a lot faster if people stop telling minorities that they're all but doomed to failure even if they put in legwork.

Not just asians, Nigerian Americans(who are black if you didn't know) on average more than whites too I believe. But you are right about the cause, it's because they're bright, sharp, and most importantly WORK HARD. They don't listen to people who tell them that tell them they need systemic advantages over white people.to overcome "white privilege" and succeed.

Here's a Nigerian American to explain it in more detail...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru4SVUlNfMY&t=1s

In this day and age things like white privilege, the patriarchy and systematic oppression are just the excuses lazy people make in order to feel better about themselves.

Originally posted by Firefly218
One of the most ridiculous regressive attitudes out there. Centuries of slavery and oppression don't just get returned for a refund...

Not quite as ridiculous as "money will make it go away"

Reparations. How about personal responsibility.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah, white people are still the majority so there's going to be more of them in power. And political positions in congress are held for long periods of time, you've just got to wait for more of the incumbents to die off and/or retire. The balance will happen organically without forcing it, and it'll happen a lot faster if people stop telling minorities that they're all but doomed to failure even if they put in legwork.

Not just asians, Nigerian Americans(who are black if you didn't know) on average more than whites too I believe. But you are right about the cause, it's because they're bright, sharp, and most importantly WORK HARD. They don't listen to people who tell them that tell them they need systemic advantages over white people.to overcome "white privilege" and succeed.

Here's a Nigerian American to explain it in more detail...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru4SVUlNfMY&t=1s

That's right.

And isn't it funny that asians are a minority liberals are as guilty of making fun of as conservatives?

Voting Democrat isn't good enough to warrent their protection? Maybe some spite at being able to succeed dispite looking nothing like a white guy, as they keep telling everyone is a near impossible obstacle to overcome?

Originally posted by Firefly218
Racism doesn't affect white people as badly as it affects minorities. THAT is privilege.

And when almost everyone in power is white, ideally that should be because they're all the most qualified and it's all a crazy coincidence. Unfortunately, that's not the reason. There's such a diverse pool of qualified people to choose from and yet the only nominations are for more white people, again and again.

No, it's not a privilege. White privilege is indeed a myth.

And if you want to speak privilege, what about the privilege of being able to bring up racist shit done to you without people whining or being condescending? How many times has a white talked about being discriminated against just for some jackass to go "boo hoo poor white guy" ?

Originally posted by Firefly218
You think the media is overcompensating against white privilege then?

If so then you at least have a valid point. It's true sometimes it goes too far and many people can be extreme. But that doesn't change the fact that white privilege in America still exists.

Slowly though I think that's changing. Which is why a lot of white people who have historically benefited from the status quo are freaking out.

I guess you dont know about the whites in other countries that have had oppression. But no one here actually takes the time to read about it. Whites have faced persecution in Rhodesia now Zimbabwe. Since you are one of those "word citizen types" who care about other countries, might want to look around.

White Christians have been persecuted all over Japan, they had to hid in fear of their lives from being executed in the worse ways.

There are many other examples of christian and white persecution.

Today with Progressive Marxism, its basically a sin to be white. And its only going to get worse. Who knows how much further its going to go in America with Clowns like Schumer and Pelosi.

Pelosi said her grandson said he wished he wasnt white, this is how dumb this country has become.

Originally posted by Blindside12
I guess you dont know about the whites in other countries that have had oppression. But no one here actually takes the time to read about it. Whites have faced persecution in Rhodesia now Zimbabwe. Since you are one of those "word citizen types" who care about other countries, might want to look around.

White Christians have been persecuted all over Japan, they had to hid in fear of their lives from being executed in the worse ways.

There are many other exampled of christian and white persecution.

Today with Progressive Marxism, its basically a sin to be white. And its only going to get worse. Who knows how much further its going to go in America with Clowns like Schumer and Pelosi.

Pelosi said her grandson said he wished he wasnt white, this is how dumb this country has become.

Remember the fit people threw over "It's okay to be white" posters?

Remember the fit people threw over "All lives matter"?

Originally posted by Blindside12
Remember the fit people threw over "All lives matter"?

I remember a conservative politician having to apologize for saying that lol.

Originally posted by Surtur
I remember a conservative politician having to apologize for saying that lol.

Oh he wasn't a conservative, it was Martin Omally. But he did apologize😂

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