Fresh, I'm arguing on the basis of the quote that you guys love to cite, as being fallible. Arguing Revan vs Peak Outlander is another matter.
Contextually, it makes more sense for the Outlander to not have surpassed Revan, by the Start of KOTFE, as Revan was Portrayed to be a literal Powerhouse backed with accolades, and the fight within the temple of sacrifice and the Emperor's sanctum. And yes the Outlander was individually dominated by Revan,
"[The strike team member has been] discarded. [They are] being thrown through the air."―Star Wars: The Old Republic
The such little gap, between SOR and KOTFE, with no indication of growth, which was then heavily implied during the events of KOTFE, we cannot confirm he would grown that vast gap in power, in such a short time, asides from that "most powerful Opponent"-quote which, also has issues, such as Arcann being Valkorion's Opponent as well. As well as having another quote from SWTOR Indicating otherwise.
Revan was dominated by Vitiate, grew far more powerful and Was still defeated by Vitiate, your point?
Originally posted by Haschwalth
Fresh, I'm arguing on the basis of the quote that you guys love to cite, as being fallible. Arguing Revan vs Peak Outlander is another matter.
Contextually, it makes more sense for the Outlander to not have surpassed Revan, by the Start of KOTFE, as Revan was Portrayed to be a literal Powerhouse backed with accolades, and the fight within the temple of sacrifice and the Emperor's sanctum. And yes the Outlander was individually dominated by Revan,
The such little gap, between SOR and KOTFE, with no indication of growth, which was then heavily implied during the events of KOTFE, we cannot confirm he would grown that vast gap in power, in such a short time, asides from that "most powerful Opponent"-quote which, also has issues, such as Arcann being Valkorion's Opponent as well. As well as having another quote from SWTOR Indicating otherwise.
Revan was dominated by Vitiate, grew far more powerful and Was still defeated by Vitiate, your point?
Might as well respond, because i'm in the mood for it.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I don't know who you guys are, but I rarely argue the fallibility of quotes.
You miss read that.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Revan discards everyone but the player, who is able to move around regardless of what Revan does, which you would know if you even goggled the fight. The actually relevant one. You trying to argue from gameplay mechanics is flimsy at best.
Scripted Mechanics, such as Revan flinging the Outlander against a pillar disintegrating it behind it. Forming a Barrier impenetrable to the Outlander while dominating Marr/Satele, while draining them at the same time. Just curious, what is your opinion of the LS/DS fissures. Forming barriers 4 Outlander level opponents cannot penetrate etc, while Preoccupied with channeling immense energies etc. While those 4 Outlander type opponents were aided by Revan's lightside. contextually, It shows shown to take the Absolutely best("from all corners of the Galaxy"😉 to High Diff a weakend Revan after the ToS, in which he in took massive energies, which would of killed the Strike team, and all life around it for 3km, and what did he do absorb the shit. And carried on fighting. Revan is clearly Leagues ahead of the Outlander no matter how much you may want to spin it.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
How is this any different from the example I gave again? Something making sense is not a requirement in any case. Arcann, similarly, is not an opponent for Valkorion. Arcann was at no time a threat to his father, nor was he ever going to be a threat. You could argue Vaylin, maybe, but she had the majority of her power locked away long before the Outlander hit the scene, and was less dangerous than her mother, who is not as powerful as the Outlander in any case.
It is when the claim is absurd, and denied by Feats/Evidence. the statement needs to be substantial. Unless you want take all quotes as fact.
Dooku(In dueling, which relies of Physical augmentation)=DR Mace>TPM Mace or NOvel Vitiate>Novel Revan>>SF Malak>>Exar kun >kun>50 years before Revan Novel Vitiate>Muur>19BBY Vader>Dooku. Lets go boys. Opponent doesn't need to mean equal or a threat...... Just a contender/Challenger/Foe none of which is equal/ A Threat.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
This isn't even remotely relevant, so not sure why you brought it up.
Brought it up, because you mentioned OUtlander/passing Revan game wise as point.