Special Council Investigation

Started by Robtard3 pages
Originally posted by Surtur
We are constantly told he is honing in on Trump, but it really feels like he is grasping at straws here.

Cool if you believe that, but explain why Trump and Trumpers like you have consistently shit your pants over Mueller since about 3weeks after he was appointed to investigate?

Originally posted by Robtard
Cool if you believe that, but explain why Trump and Trumpers like you have consistently shit your pants over Mueller since about 3weeks after he was appointed to investigate?

*yawn* Is this the part where you make up a narrative and try to get me to defend it? No.

So you're saying you've never had a problem with Mueller now? Lolz, say it. Go on.

Originally posted by Robtard
So you're saying you've never had a problem with Mueller now? Lolz, say it. Go on.

I love how you changed it. Having an issue with something is not the same as shitting your pants over it.

Yes indeed, I do have issues with him and his team. But what he is doing seems desperate.

Maybe it is part of some master plan? I don't know.

You've shit your pants constantly over Mueller not long after he was appointed, your posts are all over in various threads, sport. It's been called out before; by multiple people. This is a fact; it won't be argued. Now do your 'I want the last word!' and declare a personal win. I don't care; Mueller doesn't care.

Originally posted by Robtard
You've shit your pants constantly over Mueller not long after he was appointed, your posts are all over in various threads, sport. It's been called out before; by multiple people. This is a fact; it won't be argued. Now do your 'I want the last word!' and declare a personal win. I don't care; Mueller doesn't care.

I love how it triggered you.

Originally posted by Surtur
We are constantly told he is honing in on Trump, but it really feels like he is grasping at straws here.

Yeah we’ve been hearing that for a year now kek, it’s why I’m not taking any of this shit seriously until I see hard evidence.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah we’ve been hearing that for a year now kek, it’s why I’m not taking any of this shit seriously until I see hard evidence.

Again, if all this is "shit not to be taken seriously" and it's fine if you want to have that view, why do Trumpers and closet Trumpers shit their pants over Mueller's investigation since late May of 2017?

Perhaps they think the continuation of this investigation that they don't see much credence to casts unfair aspersions on Trump that are repeatedly talked about non-stop in the media, in which case they see it as a negative source of unsubstantiated fear mongering to the public. I highly doubt most Trump supporters are supporting someone they believe to be guilty of treason.

I don't really care enough to argue or defend that stance, my patience is worn out with the Russia shit, I'm just putting out that interpretation to what the Trumper backlash against the investigation could be motivated by.

Yet the investigation isn't driven by "the media" or even "Leftist". Who's in charge of all three branches of the government and the supreme court? Which party appointed Mueller? What party has Mueller been a life-long member of?

Answer to all question: Republican(s).

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Even presuming he could, the United States has an extradition agreement with Sweden, so the moment Assange steps foot on U.S. soil, he will be arrested, and sent to Sweden to be prosecuted for the rape of 13-year-old girls.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Is this another Assange? Or is it Julian Assange?

Here is the timeline and accusations Julian Assange is under:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11949341

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-14/julian-assange-to-be-interviewed-over-allegations-sexual-assault/8021186

So were these two women or one of them 13?

And the accusation is that they consented to sex but it stopped being consensual when he didn't put on a condom.

Catch me up, what am I missing?

Rape because they no longer consented because he prefers to raw-dog, is that right?

Originally posted by Robtard
Yet the investigation isn't driven by "the media" or even "Leftist". Who's in charge of all three branches of the government and the supreme court? Which party appointed Mueller? What party has Mueller been a life-long member of?

Answer to all question: Republican(s).


I'm not saying some conspiratorial shit, I'm saying the ongoing investigation gives the media material for fearmongering in an anti-Trump agenda. If Trump supporters don't think the investigation is going to turn up anything and thing it was started on shaky grounds, then I can see why they would not be happy with an investigation that draws negative media coverage to Trump even if he's innocent.

This investigation is the tip of the Iceberg when the dust settles it will trigger many others. books will be written about how Trumpers were fooled and Children will read about it in History centuries from now.

Yeah I'm not biting, I'll wait till the dust settles. Personally I hope Trump isn't guilty. I can imagine whoever takes over would be worse (*cough*Pence*cough*)

Originally posted by Putinbot1
This investigation is the tip of the Iceberg when the dust settles it will trigger many others. books will be written about how Trumpers were fooled and Children will read about it in History centuries from now.

While I suspect many a Trumper will plead defense through ignorance if shit really goes down for Trump in all this and he is beholden to Russian interest. I don't know how that will hold up for them in reality, considering the Russia-Trump thing isn't something new that happened only after he won; it was a known thing during the election. It's also been a year+ now and they're still mucking.

Personally, in the scenario that it all goes down for Trump and we have another Watergate where Trump's stepping down in shame. I see Trumpers mostly doing one of three things:

A) Accepting that Trump's guilty, but washing their hands of all accountability. eg "Sure I voted for and supported Trump, but that's not my fault."

B) Backtracking and denying they ever voted for Trump and/or supported him. eg "He was never a real Republican/Conservative; I saw through his lies from the start!"

C) Conspiracy rants and not accepting that Trump's guilty and blaming everything; everyone else. eg "Trump only wanted to make America great but the deep state leftist and cuckservatives wouldn't allow it because his greatness was a threat to the status quo; this is all a set up because Trump was right about Obama and because Clinton lost!"

I can tell you right now that we have at least a couple of each category on KMC alone. 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
While I suspect many a Trumper will plead defense through ignorance if shit really goes down for Trump in all this and he is beholden to Russian interest. I don't know how that will hold up for them in reality, considering the Russia-Trump thing isn't something new that happened only after he won; it was a known thing during the election. It's also been a year+ now and they're still mucking.

Personally, in the scenario that it all goes down for Trump and we have another Watergate where Trump's stepping down in shame. I see Trumpers mostly doing one of three things:

A) Accepting that Trump's guilty, but washing their hands of all accountability. eg "Sure I voted for and supported Trump, but that's not my fault."

B) Backtracking and denying they ever voted for Trump and/or supported him. eg "He was never a real Republican/Conservative; I saw through his lies from the start!"

C) Conspiracy rants and not accepting that Trump's guilty and blaming everything; everyone else. eg "Trump only wanted to make America great but the deep state leftist and cuckservatives wouldn't allow it because his greatness was a threat to the status quo; this is all a set up because Trump was right about Obama and because Clinton lost!"

I can tell you right now that we have at least a couple of each category on KMC alone. 🙂

Oh yes, at least one of each and Pinnochio who is so dishonest he will probably switch between the three as his nose grows longer and with it his only possible ability to pleasure a woman. Unfortunately being a floundering ex Trumper will not attract them so even with his newfound dildo face, he will struggle to become the **** faced real boy he longs to be.

Judging by Mueller's staffing choices, he may not be very interested in justice.

Much has been written about the prosecutorial prowess of Robert Mueller’s team assembled to investigate allegations of Russia’s involvement in the Trump campaign. Little has been said of the danger of prosecutorial overreach and the true history of Mueller’s lead prosecutor.

What was supposed to have been a search for Russia’s cyberspace intrusions into our electoral politics has morphed into a malevolent mission targeting friends, family and colleagues of the president. The Mueller investigation has become an all-out assault to find crimes to pin on them — and it won’t matter if there are no crimes to be found. This team can make some.

Many Americans despise President Trump and anyone associated with him. Yet turning our system of justice into a political weapon is a danger we must guard against.

Think back to April 1, 1940, and a world awash in turmoil, hate and fear. Revered Attorney General Robert H. Jackson assembled the United States attorneys. In remarks enshrined in the hearts of all good prosecutors, he said, “The citizen's safety lies in the prosecutor who tempers zeal with human kindness, who seeks truth and not victims, who serves the law and not factional purposes, and who approaches his task with humility.”
Yet Mueller tapped a different sort of prosecutor to lead his investigation — his long-time friend and former counsel, Andrew Weissmann. He is not just a “tough” prosecutor. Time after time, courts have reversed Weissmann’s most touted “victories” for his tactics. This is hardly the stuff of a hero in the law.

Weissmann, as deputy and later director of the Enron Task Force, destroyed the venerable accounting firm of Arthur Andersen LLP and its 85,000 jobs worldwide — only to be reversed several years later by a unanimous Supreme Court.

Next, Weissmann creatively criminalized a business transaction between Merrill Lynch and Enron. Four Merrill executives went to prison for as long as a year. Weissmann’s team made sure they did not even get bail pending their appeals, even though the charges Weissmann concocted, like those against Andersen, were literally unprecedented.

Weissmann’s prosecution devastated the lives and families of the Merrill executives, causing enormous defense costs, unimaginable stress and torturous prison time. The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals reversed the mass of the case.

Weissmann quietly resigned from the Enron Task Force just as the judge in the Enron Broadband prosecution began excoriating Weissmann’s team and the press began catching on to Weissmann’s modus operandi.

Mueller knows this history. Is this why he tapped Weissmann to target Paul Manafort?

As Attorney General Jackson foretold: “Therein is the most dangerous power of the prosecutor: that he will pick people that he thinks he should get, rather than pick cases that need to be prosecuted.”

Manafort, a Trump associate, is simply a small step in Weissmann’s quest to impugn this presidency or to reverse the results of the 2016 election. Never mind that months of investigation by multiple entities have produced no evidence of "collusion." Mueller’s rare, predawn raid of Manafort’s home — a fearsome treat usually reserved for mobsters and drug dealers — is textbook Weissmann terrorism. And of course, the details were leaked — another illegal tactic.

Weissmann is intent on indicting Manafort. It won’t matter that Manafort knows the Trump campaign did not collude with the Russians. Weissman will pressure Manafort to say whatever satisfies Weissmann’s perspective. Perjury is only that which differs from Weissmann’s “view” of the “evidence” — not the actual truth.

We all lose from Weissmann’s involvement. First, the truth plays no role in Weissmann’s quest. Second, respect for the rule of law, simple decency and following the facts do not appear in Weissmann’s playbook. Third, and most important, all Americans lose whenever our judicial system becomes a weapon to reward political friends and punish political foes.

It is long past the due date for Mueller to clean up his team — or Weissmann to resign — as a sign that the United States is a nation of laws that are far more important than one Weissmann.

Sidney Powell (@SidneyPowell1) was a federal prosecutor in three districts under nine U.S. attorneys from both political parties, then in private practice for more than 20 years. She is a past president of the Bar Association of the 5th Federal Circuit and of the American Academy of Appellate Lawyers. A veteran of 500 federal appeals, she published "Licensed to Lie: Exposing Corruption in the Department of Justice." She consulted with Arthur Andersen on appeal and represented one of the Merrill Executives.

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/356253-judging-by-muellers-staffing-choices-he-may-not-be-very-interested-in